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Grace OP wrote

Reading Lenin changed my entire ideology. He is a true genius, and explains all of this really well. China prides itself on being a multi-ethnic country, and han supremacy literally doesnt exist. Tibet literally was a slave theocracy, and I'm glad it was liberated.

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ziq wrote (edited )

Tibetians don't seem to think they're liberated in any way, do their wishes not matter to you because you consider them reactionaries?

Do you not see how this thinking is no different than your fellow Americans insisting Iraq has been "liberated" by NATO?

Don't you think people are deserving of self determination? Would you rather their decisions be made for them by outside forces? Their lives governed by a state they reject as an invader? Is this socialism to you? Because it sounds no different to me than US imperialism.

Since you're an American, is it possible you've internalized a deeply ingrained colonizer mentality and are now applying it to your politics and the lives of people in distant lands who have no interest in your plans for them?

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Grace OP wrote

The Tibetan people were liberated, and I mean it. They were literally in a feudal slave state. Anything is better than that. They used to be the Dalai Lama's personal slaves.

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suma wrote

Do you agree with Lenin's orders to "introduce mass terror" - to torture and then slaughter scores of workers and peasants? What about his order to carry out a massacre of sex workers who he said were corrupting dock workers? Both orders are discussed in w/tankies if you don't know about it.

If you don't agree with these moves, why do you you consider him a "true genius"? How can someone who was responsible for such unthinkable atrocities, and ultimately the counter-revolution that ensured the eventual reversion to free market capitalism?

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Grace OP wrote

I'm sure you have a source on these extreme claims, right?

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suma wrote

I gave you the source. Scroll to the bottom of the wiki for the citations.

w/tankies

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Grace OP wrote

of course not. I get sources from many people and sources that dont come straight from the mouth of the US propaganda department.

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mofongo wrote

They're questioning if you only get your news freon the Chinese propaganda department.

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Grace OP wrote

I get my news from leftist subreddits and chapo.chat. I don't care for liberalism.

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