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ziq wrote (edited )

Do you believe there can be an ML revolution in the US?

Are you aware that Stalin instructed the red army to rape scores of women after their victory?

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Grace OP wrote (edited )

A ML revolution, like any other revolution in America, is futile unless the idea of America is destroyed. America is the heart of Imperialism. I'd say that America must be destroyed and balkanized for a socialist revolution of any kind to be possible. Or America to be so fucking dumb like the Tsar of Russia was, that we get Communism in America. Who knows?

Lenin didn't know he was going to lead the revolution, he did. Things can change to quick.

Also on that Stalin claim, can I see a source?

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ziq wrote (edited )

Yeah but do you think the majority of people of the USA will ever be open to a Marxist Leninist revolution in your lifetime?

You said here:

When the revolution comes, I want to guillotine liberals like Biden, Buttigieg and Obama. Such shitheads.

Have you considered your adoption of ML ideology is tied to your wanting to brutally punish the people who benefit from this unjust world? Do you maybe see an ideology that has a long history of successfully executing, raping, torturing (the cheka), colonizing (Afghans, Uighurs, Ethiopians, etc) and enslaving its "reactionary" enemies as the best chance you'll have to actualize your thirst for revenge?

Have you ever considered that historically and currently, the kind of people who lead ML parties have been nothing like you and have in fact been much more likely to enslave, exile or murder a trans person for being "subversive to the common order" before a liberal politician, who were simply given a pension and allowed to retire?

Have you considered what happens all throughout history when a state is granted authority to murder those it perceives as a threat?

Red army's institutional rape:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/slavic-review/article/red-army-in-yugoslavia-19441945/8D212624135E340F6DAF0E8298776464

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Grace OP wrote

When you mention Ethiopians, do you think that Mussolini was a ML? That's bizarre and downright wrong. Dreaming of a socialist revolution is nice, but I'm not optimistic today and it feels more and more unlikely in America. If it happens, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Deng was thrown out of the Communist party multiple times, but he still was loyal to Communism. I was not alive during the time of Lenin, but I do know modern day MLs, at least western ones, arent genocidal murderers like you think they are.

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ziq wrote

When you mention Ethiopians, do you think that Mussolini was a ML? That's bizarre and downright wrong

No of course not.

https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-7/lrs-paper-bear.htm

There are Soviet military bases on every major continent and Soviet warships in every major sea. Soviet and Soviet-backed aggression in Angola, Kampuchea, Ethiopia, Afghanistan (and the continued threat to Poland) show that Moscow bears no respect whatsoever for the sovereignty of other countries.

Ethiopia wasn't the best example tho, they intervened in Ethiopia militarily but nowhere near to the extent they did elsewhere.

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suma wrote (edited )

modern day MLs, at least western ones, arent genocidal murderers like you think they are.

The western ones don't have power right now. But whenever MLs have come to power, they instantly turn into genocidal murderers. That's why anarchists reject all authority - we understand that institutional power will always be used to do harm. All power corrupts absolutely. If you have the privilege to witness literally every ML state in history, including current ones, doing harm to marginalized people, and you support ML, you're either lying to yourself or you don't really care about the lives ML rulers destroy. I just saw you say China is "re-educating terrorists" (Uighurs) on reddit because China has empathy for them. I know you're a kid, but goddamn wtf.

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