Submitted by Sillystring in lobby

You all brought it on with your pathetic anarkiddie beliefs, refusing to read any theory or demonstrate even a basic understanding of leftism or global politics. Your site is dying because you're a bunch of edgy green haired punks who think going to a rave or shoplifting pokemon cards from Target is more important than going to a protest. Your site is dying because of your imperialist America-loving attitude where you don't care about real socialists who are under constant attack by capitalism. Your site is dying because you have a disgusting personality cult around an angry teenager who won't stop pushing "information" straight out of the CIA fact book and literally believes in the horseshoe theory. Your site is dying because you won't let us talk about the election on any board except the USA board. Your site is dying because you ignorant gatekeeping pissants won't let real socialists be mods. Your site is dying because chapo.chat is genuinely a better experience with better software better community better politics and better leaders. Fuck you anarkiddie fucknuts and your stupid little backwater site filled with CIA propaganda and left-bashing. You LOST THE WAR losers!!!!!!!!

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celebratedrecluse wrote

The reason why chapo.chat is successful is because forums are a consumer experience, and entitled Americans would rather have a space which caters to them and their LARPer ideology.

Raddle has its problems, but at least it loads without javascript and has an international community.

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BioWarfarePosadist wrote

https://imgur.com/a/N4NN8e7

Just so you know. No similiar post on Lemmygrad.ml though

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sillystring2 wrote

That's not me troll. Why the fuck are you copying my username on chapo? I'm Earther_Recycling / StoneAze there.

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Sillystring OP wrote

@entitled Americans

@entitled Americans

@entitled Americans

RADDLE: "The CIA is always right!!!"

@entitled Americans

@entitled Americans

@entitled Americans

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celebratedrecluse wrote

That is not my position at all, and I am one of the more active people and mods on here.

I systematically did a take down of some CIA propaganda that got upvoted here, and it was well received and i think changed some people's perspective and the tone of the discourse on the site around some of the clickbait articles about the Uyghur situation in China.

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Sillystring OP wrote

If you acknowledge they're not being oppressed then why are you on this site which everyone knows is owned by one of the alphabet agencies? Don't you know you're helping spread their capitalist propaganda? Do you enjoy doing work for the CIA or are you just stupid?

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celebratedrecluse wrote

I didn't say Uyghurs are not being oppressed, that is a ridiculous statement. The communist party has quite literally acknowledged the existence of the camps on their state media official releases.

I have been criticizing the actual CIA propaganda that cites Radio Free Asia and other bullshit as legitimate sources to say the communists are killing the babies of the devout or other nonsense.

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Sillystring OP wrote

The camps are not oppressing them you fucking lib. Is prison oppressive to criminals? lol fucking anarkiddies

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train wrote

Of course prisons are oppresive to criminals. That's their fucking purpose lol. Plenty of Marxists even MLs have made this point central to their organizing efforts and theoretical research. Like how the hell do you not know that?

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Yes, prison was pretty oppressive to me.

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Sillystring OP wrote

Lol got caught shoplifting huh?

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celebratedrecluse wrote

No, I was incarcerated for political reasons.

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Sillystring OP wrote

Uha. Burning a trash can outside a pizza hut?

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Sure, let me just keep talking about my past, do you have your tape recorder on officer? <3

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Sillystring OP wrote

Do not snitchjacket without evidence. That is classic COINTELPRO, ironically.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

I agree, you should think about what you said.

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gearhead wrote

Let's not mention to hypocrisy of banning someone for doing the exact thing you did just because he's a communist...

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celebratedrecluse wrote

i haven't banned anyone related to the uyghur discussions, iirc, i however did draw the line with people arguing in either ignorance or bad faith that the prison camps do not exist and say I supported the banning of the accounts. Someone else, however, acted on it because I think I did not. As i said, they have been admitted to by the government, it was just a total misrepresentation of reality and in context is clearly genocide denial as the goal of the camps are to erase the culture, kinship ties, and religion of the uyghur people through incarceration and form them into better workers and compliant citizens for the government.

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gearhead wrote

If you were actually leftists you'd ban people for accusing communist countries of committing genocide, not for exposing your radio liberty talking points.

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NOISEBOB wrote

the uyghurs are criminals?

what crime did they commit?

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Sillystring OP wrote (edited )

They don't put people in prison for being muslims, they put them in prison for doing crimes. Various crimes.

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NOISEBOB wrote

ah.. kinda like how the USA system doesn't put black people in prison for being black, but because they break the law?

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Sillystring OP wrote

Idpol includes murderers rapists and terrorists as minorities now lol.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Are you really defending the prison systems of this earth?

Who do you think invented them? Communists?

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Sillystring OP wrote (edited )

Society needs prisons, it's not like we have somewhere like Australia to exile our crims to.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

So the options are prisons or colonialism?

Why is this the choice? Can you envision no other options?

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Sillystring OP wrote

China's prisons aren't like America's, they re-educate the prisoners so they can be functional members of society.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Brainwashing. Got it.

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Sillystring OP wrote

If that's what you want to call turning terrorists into productive citizens.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Forcing someone to change their behavior to fit within a society's standards?

Yes, that's brainwashing.

Imagine being against the CIA while also whining about terrorism.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

North America's prisoners are the backbone of the economy, as are prisoners in any state.

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Sillystring OP wrote

I don't support it? China doesn't build prisons outside their borders, their prisons are legal, for their own citizens who break the law, and they don't torture them.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

One of the foundational principles of democratic justice is the idea that you are represented by those who cast judgement on you.

How many Uyghur judges do you think there are?

The United States, which we both hate...its War on Drugs is legal. Its incarceration of immigrants and drug criminals continues to be legal. The prisons are within their borders, for those that break the law. And besides solitary confinement (which China also uses, of course), and the death penalties (which China uses more frequently for its prisoners), there's not outright torture that is state-sanctioned. Sure, it happens, but not as a policy per se.

So by this criteria, you would be okay with USA prisons? I'm confused why you're calling me CIA if this is your position, you might want to move to USA at that point.

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Sillystring OP wrote

China is socialist, America is capitalist. Our prisons aren't serving the people, they're serving the capitalists.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

you are literally American, and you are speaking as an authority on Chinese Prisons, and accusing people of being CIA?

Do you not see the irony? My eyes are bleeding!

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Sillystring OP wrote

I can be an American and anti-imperialist, you should learn from my example.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Again, you are being entitled as fuck, thinking you have something to teach others when your foolishness and dogmatism blind you from how absurd you appear to others. Literally American exceptionalism, GTFO

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GlangSnorrisson wrote

I’m convinced this is a bit.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

I think it's someone who is stirring controversy on purpose, perhaps on multiple platforms as is suggested. Either someone with too much time on their hands like usual, or someone with a more strategic desire to stoke conflict between different radical spaces, who knows.

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GlangSnorrisson wrote

Oh it’s definitely meant to stir up controversy. I just refuse to take them seriously.

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BioWarfarePosadist wrote

I put it on the top post, but I think this is the person who also impersonates me and other users. If I was more familiar with usernames here, I'm willing to bet they have taken some usernames hear and used it over at Chapo to try and stir shit up. They're just doing their best to stir up shit between Raddle and Chapo. I think they want us to brigade each other or something. They made a similiar post over on Chapo, under the exact same username but replaced Anarkiddie with Tankie.

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sillystring2 wrote

Stop lying, I haven't been on chapo for days and I don't steal usernames chud

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BioWarfarePosadist wrote

Hey! I may be a cannibal, and I may be an Underground Dweller, but I am not Humanoid. Got it, bubs!?

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Do not snitchjacket without evidence. That is classic COINTELPRO, ironically.

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Sillystring OP wrote

You're literally in the CIA lol, everything on this site is evidence of it

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celebratedrecluse wrote

this is just classic COINTELPRO. You cannot make these kind of destructive accusations without evidence.

Raddle is designed to be as trustless as possible within its technical limitations. I have been pushing within the site for increased transparency and accountability around moderation. I have been making progress.

You can either help, go enjoy your alternative, or come here to act like a cop.

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Sillystring OP wrote

I can link to a mountain of evidence like every time someone on this site presents alphabet propaganda as fact or bans a leftist for supporting a socialist government.

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Raxalor wrote

"I ANNOUNCE TO THE EMPTY HOUSE THAT MY HOUSE IS BETTER, BECAUSE IT IS NOT EMPTY. I'M NOT DOING THIS FOR ATTENTION, BECAUSE CLEARLY NO ONE IS HERE. AS I SAID, THIS HOUSE IS EMPTY. DWELLERS OF THIS EMPTY HOUSE, I DECLARE TO YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT HERE, BECAUSE THIS HOUSE IS EMPTY. I'M DEFINITELY NOT HERE FOR THE ATTENTION OF THE EMPTY HOUSE."

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GlangSnorrisson wrote (edited )

NOW YOU RESIDENTS OF THIS COMPLETELY DESERTED HOUSE BETTER NOT LAUGH AT MY STRANGE AND IGNORANT DIATRIBES, YOU ANLIBFASCISTS.

ALSO THE WORD “POSITIONALITY” DOES NOT EXIST AND ANYONE CLAIMING THE CONTRARY IS BEING A REVISIONIST.

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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Is that why you're posting here?

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Sillystring OP wrote

I'm posting here to force you to admit your huge failure. Admit it and I'll go back to chapo.

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Sillystring OP wrote

Admit it for real, on reddit (socialism, completeanarchy, anarchism, communism, breadtube and latestagecapitalism), and tell everyone to go to chapo.chat instead and that chapo is the only real leftist clone and raddle is anti-leftist. Then I'll leave, I swear.

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mofongo wrote

Wait... People are leaving chapo to come here? That explains the uptick in activity. Thanks for this delicious piece of news.

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NOISEBOB wrote

Then I'll leave, I swear.

that's a threat of continuous spam.

could we ban this Sillystring now and get on with our lives?

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NOISEBOB wrote (edited )

alright.

we failed!

now go away

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_caspar_ wrote

wow 120+ comments over the same troll whos been posting goofy shit all summer.. add another to the tally ;p

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TheDeed wrote

Hey raddle users, this loser doesn’t represent the rest of us over on the other site, he’s just starting shit and trolling in both sites. Much love to you all.

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AnarcheAmor wrote

Don't mind me, just a random comment to express my confusion as to how this was worthy of 130 comments.

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Beatnik wrote (edited )

Hey comrades! I’m a member of the dev team over at ChapoChat and also one of the site’s admins. Looks like BioWarfarePosadist already helped clarify this post was from a troll.

Just want to reaffirm I think raddle is cool and that we don’t encourage this kind of weird sectarianism on our site. Having tendency focused sites like Raddle for Anarchism and Lemmygrad for MLs serves an important purpose and I totally respect that. The more leftist software projects we have out there the better tbh.

Our goal with ChapoChat is to have a multi-tendency space online. It’s def ML-heavy right now, but we have a dedicated Anarchist community for folks that want to hang there and our mod/dev teams has a wide range of different tendencies.

Fun fact: I’m currently stuck as a mod on that Anarchism comm due to a bug we’re working on, so I’ve gotten to read more Anarchist content than I would have otherwise which has actually been cool.

I’ll cross post a link to this on ChapoChat from my account to prove it’s me and not a griefer since we’ve been having trouble with that.

Edit: here’s that comment, heads up that there’s probably some dunking on Raddle elsewhere in there. I maintain my position that y’all dope.

Anyway, solidarity and feel to reach out. I don’t check this account too often because I’ve got my hands full with Chapo, but the door is always open for ya on our site as well. Hoping we can have a positive vibes between our communities.

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ziq wrote

no one cares

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Beatnik wrote

Fair enough. I personally just wanna shitpost, build stuff, and grill. 🍻

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ziq wrote

for some reason

It's run by by this Amurican who thinks Chinese boots taste better than other boots and "tanks are sick". That's essentially his entire ideology. A community will always reflect its managers, so of course chapo.chat has ended up as r/FULLCOMMUNISM for gen z. There's nothing radical about this dipshit's politics, he's just another privileged American LARPER who went to China once and developed a red capitalism fetish.

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broseph wrote

I don't know how you can say that, calling socialists fascists. It's not cool.

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Sillystring OP wrote

EVERYONE STILL HERE WHO CARES ABOUT REAL LEFTISM COME TO WWW.CHAPO.CHAT

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Sillystring OP wrote

The sooner you admit you're a fascist, the sooner we can all end this stupid war and chapo / lemmygrad can be recognized as the only leftist reddit clone.

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Sillystring OP wrote

This is why raddle failed. I hope everyone is paying attention.

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NOISEBOB wrote

why bother coming here to shout at us? you stay in your bubble and we stay in our bubble. left unity and such....

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BioWarfarePosadist wrote

Because this person isn't a good faith user of either site. Just a troll using 4chan like tactics to try and start a war, lol.

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Sillystring OP wrote

Because every time a comrade tries to promote chapo on reddit some chud from here slanders our site and tells people to come here instead.

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broseph wrote

In my view it failed because it's too sectarian, not just to communists but also anarchists if they happen to voice any critical support to China.

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NOISEBOB wrote

LOL

"only leftist something something"

is that a threat?!

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