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lempamo wrote

i'd wager most here associate the hammer & sickle with the soviet union, lenin, stalin, etc.

not communism, but an authoritarian state capitalist society which the people here (myself included) want nothing to do with

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Amorphous wrote

Why?

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ziq wrote

Because that's literally what it is. It was commissioned by Lenin to be the official symbol of the USSR. You can't disassociate a symbol from its entire reason for being.

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Amorphous wrote

Sure, but as you'll find if you visit the US and call yourself a libertarian, things change a bit. The hammer and sickle has been used by marxists and by anarchists for longer than you or I have been alive.

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ziq wrote (edited )

If you call yourself a libertarian in the US, everyone will assume you're a capitalist.

No anarchists I know uses the hammer and sickle, and whenever someone does it's because they're baby ancoms who are ignorant of its history. Just a few months after Lenin chose the hammer and sickle to represent the Soviets (altering the original design to remove the sword from it because he felt it gave off violent vibes), he sent in his army to murder the anarchist Black Guard and cement his counter-revolution. After Emma Goldman arrived and witnessed the ongoing slaughter of anarchists and other socialists, she wrote "there's no communism in Russia" and from that point on, anarchists have had no love for the hammer and sickle.

edit:

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-my-disillusionment-in-russia

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NOISEBOB wrote

Doesn't change the fact that it is a symbol of authoritarian state capitalist society...

the DPRK version with the brush is better anyway

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Amorphous wrote

I'll grant you that the DPRK's take on it is pretty sick. There's something to be said for the simplicity of the original though

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