Submitted by bryl in goth

I was looking through an old issue of Propaganda magazine I have (yes, I'm that old) and saw an article about them. And I saw a picture of some neo-Nazi dude wearing a Death in June t-shirt on the internet somewhere. So what's their deal? Is it just for shock value or are they really Nazi?

(by the way, I think they aren't goth, but I wasn't sure where to ask. Propaganda was a gothy/industrial mag in the '80s-'90s)

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Revenant wrote

Douglas Pearce, leader of Death in June, has Nazi sympathies - specifically with the Strasserists and SA. The name 'Death in June' is a reference to the Night of the Long Knives - when the SA was purged from the Nazi party.

Death in June often uses fashy imagery and themes in their work, sometimes subtle but often not. For example, the line "On a marble slab in Yalta Mother Europe was slaughtered" from the song 'Sons of Europe'. (A reference to the Yalta conference towards the end of WW2.)

Unfortunately, a lot of neo-folk bands are the same.

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boringskip wrote

They donated to a hospital for Croatian fascists iirc. Pretty sure they're fash. Sucks too, great music and the guy used to be in anarcho-punk bands

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bryl OP wrote (edited )

ooh. That's a shame. I was hoping they weren't, just because of their associations with other bands that I'm interested in. Oh well. I had also heard that David Pearce (I think he's the only real steady member) is openly gay, so I thought they might be trying to be ironic with their imagery.

Edit.-- Sorry, dude's name is Douglas Pearce, not David.

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boringskip wrote

yeah he's gay, but there were major gay currents in nazism too until the Night of Long Knives. Ernst Rohm was gay and Hitler's best friend until it was politically inconvenient.

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bryl OP wrote

Wow, didn't know that. I learned something.

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boringskip wrote

I really like King Dude for non-fash (as far as i can tell) neo-folk. There's others, maybe someone else can chime in.

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bryl OP wrote

Just in case anyone is still with this thread, since I last checked in I have discovered Rome and Sea Wolves of the Atlantic-- both non-fash and sound very cool!

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bryl OP wrote

I don't know much about neo-folk but I've heard a little of King Dude and I like it. I plan to listen more.

Seems like the neo-folk/dark scene has a fash-imagery problem, unfortunately. I've seen a few articles on the internet where shows were closed not because of King Dude, but because of other acts playing at the venue at the same show (iirc, Blood and Sun, Et Nihilo, Taake--black metal, but whatever, I don't know any of them).

It'd be nice to know some more non-fash neo-folk bands.

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