Recent comments in /f/freeAsInFreedom

r1V3r_ OP wrote

Hi, we should talk in more detail I’m sure. More needs to be added but my network isn’t ever stable. Also, much of the information you’re probably interested is either physical evidence or it’s on one of the many offline devices I have or I risk deletion/corruption by intrusion of my devices, which if at all possible has limited amount of information at any given time.

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joemushroom wrote (edited )

The government is fucked and all but the subbreddit actually doesn't seem to be relevant to anything fucked up the government is doing. I'd love to talk to you about how you feel this way. Its very possible that you're right its just that its so easy to prove the fucked up stuff the US government does that you not having much evidence is a bit weird. Also, if the government is doing fucked stuff why do you keep contacting government agencies? Do you think they are just gonna say "oh yah we kidnap children" bc you asked?

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lautreamont wrote (edited )

First Microsoft and then later Apple and Google spent billions to get into that market,

Sure. You also forgot Facebook and Zoom more recently. Institutional support to tech products is a major factor in how they become mass spread. Especially for all the non-tech savvy people (who're notoriously Facebook's main crops). When you got the Facebook logo everywhere down to cereal boxes and people say "Google search it" all the time, but when "official" institutions like schools are also supporting it, you're pretty sure most people are gonna think these things cannot be avoided, ergo "there are no alternatives".

It's super fucked up now that students have been paying universities the same tuition fees for having classes on Zoom. Education system has totally bowed to Silicon Valley.

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

I don't blame the FSF for losing the battle for education. First Microsoft and then later Apple and Google spent billions to get into that market, because they know most consumers that get accustomed to their products in schools will stick with them for the rest of their lives. I haven't seen the contracts, but I suspect the education discount for schools were huge because the companies viewed the project as a long term investment. A free software education system would be more costly because they couldn't subsidize the expenses from their other profits.

There has been an open war between IP and FOSS since the 1990s, and IP used permissive license software as their weapon - MIT, Apache, BSD, etc...

I don't think there's any parallel dimension with a capitalist world economy and a wildly successful FSF. There's too much money to be made by using DRM, invading privacy, and keeping trade secrets. I just suspect the FSF could be a lot more successful than they are now if they were run better - maybe have 2% of the global consumer market on FSF-approved hardware and devices instead of 0.00002%.

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lautreamont wrote (edited )

I don't think I ever heard of Friendica, but GNU Social maybe once. The FSF have been backward for at least 10 years and that may be related to their poor support within the developer world. They yet had a chance at pushing their stuff through the education system, yet they were facing Microsoft's dominion (or maybe collaborating with it by non-competing, I dunno).

So it's like, FSF was mostly just a PR group that had a level of influence through the GPL licensing. How they got somewhat beaten at this? By inclusive open source licenses multiplying. So I think there may have been this covert war between IP and FOSS for the last 10 years.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Sure, I was saying in addition to your saying, not against your saying.

That's understandable. He has genuinely done a lot within that space to make things like this website possible. But it just goes to show, someone can do good works, and still do terrible unforgivable things, and ultimately outlive their own usefulness to those good works. At this point, it's just undeniable he needs to step back, if he cares about the project more than his own ego. But he's going to double down probably, because ultimately his actions were about his ego in no small part.

Any chance at growth, change, accounting for the past, grows smaller with each day he does this. his own soul will have to withstand that, but it pales in comparison to what he put people through in his daily life interactions.

Sometimes I think people double down like this, because they feel it's too late for them to change, and so they fear that and engineer a psychology around avoiding or negating that possibility.

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

Please forgive me for being pedantic, but "apologetics" means the defense of something through reasoned arguments. So at Raddle most of us engage in trans rights apologetics, and anarchist philosophy apologetics.

Facebook and Instagram is horrific garbage, but so is Twitter and billions on Facebook and Instagram don't use Twitter. FSF should be active on all of them, and Youtube, and everywhere else.

Ten years ago they were pushing GNU Social, Friendica, and so forth and they were actually pretty good. But then and now I don't think the promotions were reaching the right audiences or written in a way that appealed to people that were not already FOSS fans.

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