What browsers does everyone use?

Submitted by anarchyinbedrock1990 in freeAsInFreedom

Hi. At the moment of writing this, I'm currently using Palemoon, as I've heard Firefox is an "anarchist" browser, so I thought Palemoon must REALLY be anarchist. Anyways, I also like The Classic Browser, Brave browser, and some open source ones, too. What browsers does everyone use/like/recommend?

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Great info, small addendum I'd like to add: Tails OS does not turn off the microphones on your computer off, so if you're using it from a laptop, make sure to go into settings->audio->input and turn off the mic manually before you use the laptop in an environment where you don't want the OS to overhear your conversation/be able to remotely ID your voice/environment to deanonymize you.

I would also recommend running tor services from a place which isn't tied to your real identity-- not your home, if you're housed, and not your place of work/etc

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celebratedrecluse wrote (edited )

Or, if you're like me, just rip out the mics and use a usb peripheral that you can disconnect manually with ease, whenver you need a microphone (to make an encrypted voice call, record audio, etc)

edit: also, disabling hardware (eg, microphone, webcam, etc) in the BIOS is much preferable to the initial method i mentioned, because it will disable the microphone permanently and never allow access to the microphone during bootup of the OS!

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buckE wrote

This. (You could also do this with a cell phone. It isn't difficult after you break your first one.)

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celebratedrecluse wrote

For sure. I tend to take a less trusting-of-institutions approach, prefering to steal or use free wifi for my political activities/tor usage.

However, for some people its just unworkable to constantly be moving around and using internet connections which aren't your home connection. Moreover regardless of that, it's also a concern to be using public wifi because of the possibility of traffic sniffing on your connection between the router and your device. So there are many approaches, you just have to try and tailor one that works best for your particular situation.

For example, if you are under direct legal scrutiny, maybe one wouldn't want access shit from your home connection. However, if you are not as mobile physically as others, it may be more reasonable to simply proxy your home connection as well as possible. Anarchism once again shows itself to be a supremely useful ideology, in that it enables us all to make our own calls about how we want to approach the issue. Through our multiplicity, our collective anonymity grows exponentially.

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anarchyinbedrock1990 OP wrote

I heard or read somewhere that police also use Tor. Can anyone confirm that?

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buckE wrote

It was partly funded originally by the U.S Government

I think it is still mostly U.S. Government

https://www.torproject.org/about/sponsors/ https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-02/tor-project-almost-100-funded-us-government-report

I do not think this is a problem but this is interesting from the article:

Tor has “no qualms with privately tipping off the federal government to security vulnerabilities before alerting the public

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buckE wrote

It all boils down to your particular threat model.

What does? I wasn't making a suggestion for how someone should act. I was correcting a point in the previous post.

you think you have state actors looking for you then you should probably not be on the internet to begin with.

If you believe this then no one should use the internet, insolidarity with any good people who have any state actors from any state looking for them.

Another approach is to create an infrastructure that is resistant to surveillance, and support that fully and exclusively.

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buckE wrote

Again you misinterpret my post. I am not suggesting a course of action. I was correcting a point in the previous post.

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ziq wrote

Firefox.

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heckthepolice2 wrote

qutebrowser with js disabled over a vpn. When I need js, I'll use firefox.

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cryptolake wrote

firefox with vpn. i heard about palemoon how does it compare to the functionality of firefox+add-ons?

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neverinNJ wrote

Vivaldi. Though it can crash.

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anarchyinbedrock1990 OP wrote

It feels too heavy on my machine. Like it takes a few seconds to boot up, and it's not lightweight :/

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OldHippieChick wrote

Netsurf or Icecat

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anarchyinbedrock1990 OP wrote

I'm waiting for the next NetSurf to release for my system. IceCat doesn't make their browser for windows anymore, so I use Waterfox sometimes, or Palemoon/Basilisk.

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OldHippieChick wrote

[QUOTE]IceCat doesn't make their browser for windows anymore[/QUOTE]

Ugh. That's new.

Waterfox and/or Palemoon/Basilisk is probably the least-bad option for you then unless you have the time and desire to use live Gnu/Linux media.

Windows ports of Gnu/Linux programmes were what gave me the confidence to move forward at my own pace back in the days when the dinosaurs roamed the earth and I was relevant (in 2004) so I'm sad to see them go.

I'm also patient if you ever sincerely want to hit me up for Gnubie questions.

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manc wrote

Firefox over VPN for most of my browsing. Tor browser for a select few sites.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

Tor, Firefox Nightly, Opera, Safari, depending on what for.

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buckE wrote

I've heard Firefox is an "anarchist" browser

Firefox was the most popular browser for a long time for the entire public. Basically after Internet Explorer and the old Mosaic, Mozilla came along. Chrome is now more popular but Firefox is sometimes faster (depends on who has the most recent version) and the Mozilla organization is a strong advocate for privacy.

But they are not "anarchists" and lots of grandmothers are using Firefox to handle their checking accounts because it is what they have always used, and it has great developer tools and is excellent for technical reasons, not only ethical ones.

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OldHippieChick wrote

Please pardon my digression, but for the record "anarchist" and "grandmother" are not mutually exclusive.

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buckE wrote

Agreed! I hope I was not implying otherwise. I was only saying that firefox has been around long enough for its original user-base to have kids who have kids. Not to imply that grandmothers can't be badasses.

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