Submitted by d4rk in d4rk

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The debate over the Filioque clause is idiotic mainly because you're talking about two different linguistic perspectives. Obviously if you were Greek or Slavonic, it is heretical to believe that the Holy Spirit proceeded from the Father and the Son because you're talking in terms of Emanation. The Holy Spirit proceeds from the father the same way our Spirit proceeds from us in this context. He pushes, pulls, and acts. He communicates without speaking but is in himself a real person of the Trinity. Now this is Heretical because if you ask the Yazidis, Manichaeans and Mandeans the question of whether the Holy Spirit emanates from the Father and Son, they'd agree in a heartbeat.

Now as previously mentioned, in the Latin Context, procession is a category spoken into being by God. In this sense, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit exist as capacities with different wills and energies. Procession is this way is a category of effect. Which is different from the son who is God become Man. By being in a realm of effect, (realm here depicting the things they govern) they occupy a space of definition and in extension govern the magisterium. The Holy Spirit therefore is the authority which defines, not acts, therefore it is an ascribing of effects. So of course, the Holy Spirit, in the Latin context, proceeds from the Father and the Son because in the end they're all the same being in one Godhead in 3 distinct persons.

It is thus more accurate to make the Nicene-Constantinopolitan creeds of the respective churches the way they are right now because they're direct translations of each other giving it the cultural context of the same truth. No part of the definition has changed, no part of the creed has changed, rather it's a beautiful reminder that we are One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

Miaphysitism or Oriental Orthodoxy is heretical but isn't damagingly heretical as to wreck Christology. Rather you have a different answer to the question of "What that G-d doin". Nestorians however should never be allowed into the Church, we're lucky that the contemporary Assyrian Church of the East no longer ascribe to Nestorianism as far as I know and entered into communion with either Catholic or Orthodox confessions.

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