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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote

I'd like to see what he does with it. Ta-Nehisi Coates is one of my favorite writers and Captain America is one of my favorite comic book characters. Though it will likely bring all the dudebros out of the woodwork, who'll whine about how they're politicizing Captain America.

Guys? Captain America's debut issue has him punching out Hitler right on the cover and from there, is nothing but page after page of Nazis getting their asses kicked, Nazi ideology being repeatedly depicted as repugnant and its supporters, worthy of nothing but disgust.

And this issue was published in March of 1941, BEFORE the US even entered WWII. And since the Nazis had a sizeable following in America, Cap's creators and publishers faced bomb threats and death threats for that issue. Though the Mayor of New York was like, "We've got your back. Keep up the good work." and assigned the NYPD to protect them.

tl;dr, Captain America was a political creation from Day One. Oh and his creators, Joe Simon and Jack Kirby? Both of them were Jewish, both had family and friends in Europe who would lose their lives in the Holocaust, AND when the US finally entered the war, both enlisted and did their part.

Though I honestly wonder if Jack Kirby isn't somehow the greatest artistic troll ever. While writing Black Panther, his editors told him to put more White people in the comic. Jack responded by having the title character fight the KKK in the next issue.

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ziq wrote

It really sucks how little credit Kirby gets. Stan Lee was just a hack, it was all Kirby.

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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote

Jack Kirby was so influential that comic book eras should be divided by BK and AK: Before Kirby and After Kirby. The guy was a character-creating, art drawing machine. I will always be on Team Give His Family All the Royalties! Because nearly every character in Marvel's stable who wound up being worth a reader's time, came from the pen of Jack Kirby.

Because I'm the type who likes to create fantastic scenarios (hence why I'm a comic book fan), sometimes I wonder if Jack Kirby is some kind of alien android sent by his creators to show, via his art, what the world could be like, if we embraced Kirby and the alien ideals he represented. But when we screwed Kirby over, the aliens were like, "Well, we were going to give you a cure for all known diseases, faster-than-light travel, and tech that can be created and powered by easy-to-procure resources that constantly renew itself, but clearly you're not worthy. Enjoy your shitty world that's gradually becoming less inhabitable due to pollution, ruled by guys born on third base who think that they hit a triple, and reality TV shows.

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christobal wrote

Or how about this, they had knacks for different parts of the comics business and complemented eachother.

One an artist the other a salesman.

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ziq wrote

There's a lot of evidence that Lee took credit for Kirby's work. Even claiming to have created Captain America.

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GrimWillow wrote

While writing Black Panther, his editors told him to put more White people in the comic. Jack responded by having the title character fight the KKK in the next issue.

+10 respect points for Kirby!