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existential1 wrote

People better start planning to leave civ before civ leaves them.

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amongstclouds wrote

We don't have a choice in whether civilization collapses, and it will collapse, and that's one of the hallmarks of anti-civ theory. Civilization is not sustainable in any form.

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kore wrote

Also if you look at some places that have already "collapsed" like Yemen and Syria and Afghanistan just to name a few one can see that for the majority of people things get horrible fast. In the case of collapse I see more fundamentalist militant groups marauding than egalitarian communes flourishing.

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

Ableist lol

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ziq OP wrote

They mean you misspelled the word.

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote (edited )

No, I've made fun of civilisation lovers who say you are ableist if you reject industrial growth. When collapse comes, that does not mean we should close all the factories including pharmaceutical ones, just produce only as much as we need.

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amongstclouds wrote

When collapse comes there won't be a choice in whether we keep factories running. Everyone will be too busy not dying.

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manc wrote

Reading an article like this with a one year old child babbling in the background is torture

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