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keez wrote

Can we take all the big fish from the housing market next?

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yam wrote

'Nothing remarkable or noteworthy happened, they simply got eaten.'

This is so depressing. At a very minimum, time to start liberation pledgeing and refuse to passively condone participation in this around the dinner tables.

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zoom_zip wrote

in all honesty, how do you do this in a way that changes minds? i’ve been vegan for 15 years or so and i don’t think i’ve successfully convinced a single person to think critically about their actions, but i’ve definitely had plenty of “well i’m gonna eat twice as much meat and fish just to cancel you out lol!”

you could tell people fish were extinct and they still wouldn’t give a shit.

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yam wrote

you could tell people fish were extinct and they still wouldn’t give a shit.

Yea... It is futile trying to convince anyone.

in all honesty, how do you do this in a way that changes minds?

I've found it helpful, both in terms of results and in terms of mental well-being, to refuse to sit at the table when there's dead bodies on it. It sometimes means that I have to skip the odd gathering, but it's also resulted in some fully vegan communal dinners. I find it easier to respond with empathy and talk about veganism when those around me are not literally in the middle of putting flesh in their mouths, and I think they find it easier too, because they are not feeling like they're being judged for what they're doing right now. Having that whole conversation before the meal is cooked and on the table is just more constructive, in my view, even if it means that I'll have to skip the event.

Eating delicious vegan food together can be a gentler starting point than this truly depressing discussion, relevant as it is, about fish extinction.

But people are different and we probably aren't playing on the same difficulty setting. I wish I knew how Joaquin was doing it though.

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