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CircleA wrote

Stalin was fucking rad.

So a "homophobe" tankie.

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ziq wrote (edited )

That site has been up for 3 days and there's already creepy drama with one of the admins - he was grooming kids on their discord, trying to get them to send him nudes, posting 'art' of little kids watching adults have sex, and fighting hard to prevent the site from excluding minors from their nsfw sections.

Check out their mod log for screenshots.

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lempamo wrote

xi's not even a socialist what

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ziq wrote (edited )

neither is the dengist who owns that site, but third positionist fascists will take on any label that allows them to spread their propaganda

people on that site are already pushing larouchite (fascist) literature to "prove" Uyghurs are "terrorists, actually". Same exact fash propaganda the lemmy dev spread.

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train wrote

Yeah, I've been browsing and commenting there and the uncritical belief that the CCP is somehow able to ride the forces of dialectical materialism to a post capitalist future is kind of sad. That's not how Marxism works.

Tankies just don't want to accept that there is no great anti-capitalist power and so they cynically embrace capitalism by another name.

This is also certainly not the chapo community from reddit where democs made tankies feel unwelcome.

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tentafill wrote

There were two. There's also Quill. The dev team vehemently denied any controversy, even when shown evidence, so he just stepped down on his own. But that doesn't really solve the problem, which is that the mod team became factional within 2 weeks of the Discord/community being created to the point of defending such indefensible people.

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train wrote

Well I imagine a good amount of them were tankies before. There are far too many comments and posts stating, "I once thought China bad. But no more!".

I like to imagine if I disengage they will just waste their energy trying to radicalize eachother's demsoc personas.

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ziq wrote

Oh wait, was that the clown who started that forum to 'criticize' the admins, demanded I remove my essays from f/anarchism's sidebar, that we respect their democratic rights, said the site failed at anarchy, and then ragequit because I said they weren't an anarchist? lol

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ziq wrote

Have you seen that documentary American Factory? There's a white guy in that who badmouths his coworkers to the Chinese managers, calling all Americans lazy and saying they should have duct tape put over their mouths. That guy is like every self-hating American third positionist I've ever spoken to. I'm not even going to call them tankies any more because their association with socialism withered away decades ago.

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ziq wrote (edited )

Pedos often insist they're an oppressed group and deserve representation.

The only plausible target of this rule is pedophiles whose very politics will be situated as an "apology for violence against children," right? That's why this rule is there. It's so Raddle can a priori rule out the presence of pedophile voices. Just rule them out. Don't even sign up, pedophiles, you're a "violence towards children" apologist.

Right?

It's all part of maintaining the strictest, state-enforced, medicalized identity fully intact, no questions asked. This is what Raddle is all about, right? Promoting state power. Promoting the established categories. Allowing no questions. Ruling out discussion a priori. What minority in America faces more draconian surveillance, policing, shaming, exclusion, silencing, and censorship? None of your favorite victims qualify. And everybody who isn't a liar knows it, even if they're too much of a coward to admit it. And this is all true, even if you think you have a good argument for banning this or restricting that. It's true and you know it's true.

[...]

Now you can go back to hating pedophiles and using them in your absurd fight against hate speech and hate against minorities grounded in hatred and exclusion of a minority.

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cadence wrote

I looked at the site modlog, but everything that's been deleted is, well, deleted.

So I'm gonna have to call citation needed on that claim.

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Naokotani wrote

The Chapo community is homophobic? This has to be a disingenuous comment. It's just too silly.

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ziq wrote (edited )

Please explain how you can not be homophobic while calling someone who put gays in gulags "fucking rad"?

How can someone who isn't a homophobe fetishize someone who saw LGBTQ+ people as subhuman and worked them to death?

I'm sick of people pretending like glorifying homophobes is A-OK if said homophobes are dead.

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Naokotani wrote

I have never seen a gayer community than Chapo.

Let's say one of the mods likes Stalin and doesn't condemn his treatment gays, or makes some excuse for it, that doesn't really change the fact that the community as a whole is very supportive of, indeed glorifies, the LGBTQ community.

It have no idea how you could possible spend 5 minutes interacting with the Chapo community and think it's anti-gay.

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ziq wrote

it's seriously fucking weird when collectivists perceive any criticism of one man as a criticism against the tens thousands of people who listen to the same podcast as that one man

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