Submitted by heqt1c in chapotraphouse
cadence wrote
it's time for this /f/ to be active for about 3 hours and then die forever like last time
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celebratedrecluse wrote
if the lemmy instance gets put up, a large percentage will go there tbh, but hopefully a good number of the anarchists and queers will find their way here.
ziq wrote
I'm hoping they won't just follow the leader. It's not like the mods on the old sub have anything to do with the podcast.
celebratedrecluse wrote
they do not, in fact the podcast hosts hate them lol, succdem v. tankie feud
celebratedrecluse wrote
the factor that plays in raddle's favor is that the mods did not prepare for this, if i am not mistaken there was no time for them to pin an alternative. So some of them are coming here due to chaos
fuckinlibs wrote
I am definitely here due to chaos. Ya don’t check reddit for 12 hours and your fave sub is banned. Wild shit man- gotta find some kind of alternative! I literally found this from r/chapotraphome lmao.
I hope we can come up with some kind of alternative congregating space for leftists again. Chapo was such a welcoming sub and I’m gonna miss it a lot. Fuckin capitalists, man. Fuckin libs.
Mardoniush wrote (edited )
It's a shit time to be sure. Aside from occasional hilarious Trot bashing (often by people who were Trots themselves.) it was a proper place of left unity where we could actually argue as comrades with nuance and support each other. It made people happy and engaged and was a lot more useful than the standard "extremely online" take gave it credit.
I hope Raddle takes off because despite being ML-adjacent I can't stand the recent MTC struggle sessions and lemmy looks like it might be the same.
fuckinlibs wrote
I absolutely agree with you. I need more leftist spaces! Chapo was my main spot, which was probably lazy of me but I figured we came together and stopped (mostly) breaking the rules that we were in trouble for.
It’s also so telling of the state of America that chapo was put in the same sentence as the orange idiot sub. How dare we want fair wages, good working conditions, people not to be murdered by police due to skin colour, gender identity, or sexual preference, and then also just basic human necessities. Of course advertisers are pushing against that. They probably just banned the previously mentioned sub because they couldn’t just ban ours without bad publicity.
I could also be totally talking out my ass, but I have little faith. Thank fuck gender critical is gone too though, what a disgusting place.
heqt1c OP wrote
The fact that our sub was banned and not ProtectAndServe tells me everything I need to know about how fucked Reddit is.
ziq wrote
Yeah everyone on raddle has already been banned from lemmy for going against the official CCP line.
sysgen wrote
Lemmy has the major advantage of being federated though. Tho tbh rn raddle works a lot better.
ziq wrote
Raddle has as much potential to be federated as lemmy, it just needs volunteers to code it in.
sysgen wrote (edited )
Of course. ActivityPub in theory should even make lemmy instance able to federate with postmill instances. But Lemmy's federation is almost done, so it makes more sense to use that.
Putting federation up can take quite some time.
anarchyfrog wrote
Apparently that lemmy asshole who got banned from r/socialism for posting neonazi lit is volunteering to install lemmy to a server for them.
celebratedrecluse wrote
very normal and cool
neoliberal_subject wrote
another point for raddle is that lemmy is super slow to load right now. this /f/ also has ~400 subscribers to lemmys ~125
celebratedrecluse wrote
we are the mig-21 to their f-35
anarchyfrog wrote
If the mods are tankies then it's no wonder they're going with lemmy lol.
celebratedrecluse wrote
yeah, but they'll have to work for it, their whole leverage was the sub and now that its gone without them preparing ahead of time we have a level field to compete
ziq wrote
They prob control the discord and will use that to funnel people to the dengist platform.
frootloopers wrote
awesome
celebratedrecluse wrote
ah yeah probably. i didn't know about that
ziq wrote
Just keep reminding people that the lemmy person got banned from r/socialism for refusing to stop posting literal neo nazi literature.
sysgen wrote
I mean tbh if you've already been banned from a platform it's understandable to go to a federated service where you can spin your own instance. I really dislike dengists but it might be the better choice tech wise.
celebratedrecluse wrote
postmill is usable by anyone, you can set up your own instance or website if you want.
sysgen wrote
Sure, but a federated system where you can use your own instance from the start and yet still integrate with the existing community has quite an appeal.
celebratedrecluse wrote
but what if the existing community is dogshit
Green_Blender wrote
what podcast? /s
celebratedrecluse moderator wrote
WHOA THERE EVERYONE SOMEONE IS USING /s ON CHAPOTRAPHOUSE, RED ALERT EVERYBODY /s
ManicPixieFuckUp wrote
Thank you I feel so much at home.
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celebratedrecluse moderator wrote
lol its my only flair!
cadence wrote
that's actually a really good point!
ziq wrote
It's you users of the sub that created all the content, the mods just functioned like cyber landlords. Chapos don't need no landlords to tell you where to live.
veronicasawyer wrote
there are lgbt marxists 😒 speaking as one
celebratedrecluse wrote
yeah i said queers and anarchists, as two groups which overlap.
Canama wrote
yeah i'm probably only here as long as it's the bigger site
i'm not an anarchist, or interested in anarchism
celebratedrecluse wrote
that's fair, I think raddle has a shot at making this site grow exponentially, it has 3+ years of solid development and administration feedback, dealing with various conflicts and dramas and harassment, and adapting to the shifting situations. along with this, it has a unique culture of accountability and transparent decision making which is quite unusual and lends itself to be a great potential space for leftists as well as anarchists for these reasons.
given that chapo was unique as a reddit sub for its broad multitendency and partially diverse userbase, and the positive conversations that while impossible other places, not infrequently resulted there (not to rose tint glasses it, there were reasons I did not use reddit too): this site could totally be a good place to grow the community. it might even happen naturally if left to its on devices at this point, although hopefully we will keep energy flowing over the coming critical weeklong period.
hopefully, we will see if i am right. it would be good if some chapo energy flowed to raddle, including non-anarchists who share the values of the site.
ziq wrote (edited )
The only reason the site doesn't have many non anarchists on it is because until now only anarchist subs were getting fucked with by reddit (and r/shoplifting).
ChaosRocket wrote
Yeah, I’m a socialist and I first found this place when Reddit banned shoplifting.
TheDeed wrote
I’ve been straddling the line between anarchism and full on communism for months, I’ve been an anarchist for years but I’m starting to shift
Someone radicalize me, or else I shall throw myself to the thirsty trots
Pm4QE6frIf wrote
Anarchism = full on communism
There, you've been radicalized.
TheDeed wrote
Holy shit when do I get my black beret
Canama wrote
trots
TheDeed wrote
Lmao
Vulpes wrote (edited )
I've pinned a link in my subreddit, which is just about the only Chapo adjacent sub to avoid the ban wave (for now). Hopefully more people come over.
masquerademinutes wrote
Maybe less than a year until total demise. Reddit centrism bothsidesism.
ManicPixieFuckUp wrote
Centrism with spezist tendencies.
ziq wrote
so fascist tendencies rly
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