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cadence wrote

it's time for this /f/ to be active for about 3 hours and then die forever like last time

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bloodrose wrote

Aww that makes me sad. I think they left last time because their subreddit still existed, though. I thought they were planning on raddle being the backup when they eventually got banned, which they truly expected to happen.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

if the lemmy instance gets put up, a large percentage will go there tbh, but hopefully a good number of the anarchists and queers will find their way here.

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ziq wrote

I'm hoping they won't just follow the leader. It's not like the mods on the old sub have anything to do with the podcast.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

they do not, in fact the podcast hosts hate them lol, succdem v. tankie feud

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celebratedrecluse wrote

the factor that plays in raddle's favor is that the mods did not prepare for this, if i am not mistaken there was no time for them to pin an alternative. So some of them are coming here due to chaos

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fuckinlibs wrote

I am definitely here due to chaos. Ya don’t check reddit for 12 hours and your fave sub is banned. Wild shit man- gotta find some kind of alternative! I literally found this from r/chapotraphome lmao.

I hope we can come up with some kind of alternative congregating space for leftists again. Chapo was such a welcoming sub and I’m gonna miss it a lot. Fuckin capitalists, man. Fuckin libs.

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Mardoniush wrote (edited )

It's a shit time to be sure. Aside from occasional hilarious Trot bashing (often by people who were Trots themselves.) it was a proper place of left unity where we could actually argue as comrades with nuance and support each other. It made people happy and engaged and was a lot more useful than the standard "extremely online" take gave it credit.

I hope Raddle takes off because despite being ML-adjacent I can't stand the recent MTC struggle sessions and lemmy looks like it might be the same.

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fuckinlibs wrote

I absolutely agree with you. I need more leftist spaces! Chapo was my main spot, which was probably lazy of me but I figured we came together and stopped (mostly) breaking the rules that we were in trouble for.

It’s also so telling of the state of America that chapo was put in the same sentence as the orange idiot sub. How dare we want fair wages, good working conditions, people not to be murdered by police due to skin colour, gender identity, or sexual preference, and then also just basic human necessities. Of course advertisers are pushing against that. They probably just banned the previously mentioned sub because they couldn’t just ban ours without bad publicity.

I could also be totally talking out my ass, but I have little faith. Thank fuck gender critical is gone too though, what a disgusting place.

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heqt1c OP wrote

The fact that our sub was banned and not ProtectAndServe tells me everything I need to know about how fucked Reddit is.

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ziq wrote

Yeah everyone on raddle has already been banned from lemmy for going against the official CCP line.

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sysgen wrote

Lemmy has the major advantage of being federated though. Tho tbh rn raddle works a lot better.

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ziq wrote

Raddle has as much potential to be federated as lemmy, it just needs volunteers to code it in.

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sysgen wrote (edited )

Of course. ActivityPub in theory should even make lemmy instance able to federate with postmill instances. But Lemmy's federation is almost done, so it makes more sense to use that.

Putting federation up can take quite some time.

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anarchyfrog wrote

Apparently that lemmy asshole who got banned from r/socialism for posting neonazi lit is volunteering to install lemmy to a server for them.

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anarchyfrog wrote

If the mods are tankies then it's no wonder they're going with lemmy lol.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

yeah, but they'll have to work for it, their whole leverage was the sub and now that its gone without them preparing ahead of time we have a level field to compete

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ziq wrote

They prob control the discord and will use that to funnel people to the dengist platform.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

ah yeah probably. i didn't know about that

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ziq wrote

Just keep reminding people that the lemmy person got banned from r/socialism for refusing to stop posting literal neo nazi literature.

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sysgen wrote

I mean tbh if you've already been banned from a platform it's understandable to go to a federated service where you can spin your own instance. I really dislike dengists but it might be the better choice tech wise.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

postmill is usable by anyone, you can set up your own instance or website if you want.

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sysgen wrote

Sure, but a federated system where you can use your own instance from the start and yet still integrate with the existing community has quite an appeal.

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Green_Blender wrote

what podcast? /s

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cadence wrote

that's actually a really good point!

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ziq wrote

It's you users of the sub that created all the content, the mods just functioned like cyber landlords. Chapos don't need no landlords to tell you where to live.

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Canama wrote

yeah i'm probably only here as long as it's the bigger site

i'm not an anarchist, or interested in anarchism

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ziq wrote (edited )

The only reason the site doesn't have many non anarchists on it is because until now only anarchist subs were getting fucked with by reddit (and r/shoplifting).

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ChaosRocket wrote

Yeah, I’m a socialist and I first found this place when Reddit banned shoplifting.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

that's fair, I think raddle has a shot at making this site grow exponentially, it has 3+ years of solid development and administration feedback, dealing with various conflicts and dramas and harassment, and adapting to the shifting situations. along with this, it has a unique culture of accountability and transparent decision making which is quite unusual and lends itself to be a great potential space for leftists as well as anarchists for these reasons.

given that chapo was unique as a reddit sub for its broad multitendency and partially diverse userbase, and the positive conversations that while impossible other places, not infrequently resulted there (not to rose tint glasses it, there were reasons I did not use reddit too): this site could totally be a good place to grow the community. it might even happen naturally if left to its on devices at this point, although hopefully we will keep energy flowing over the coming critical weeklong period.

hopefully, we will see if i am right. it would be good if some chapo energy flowed to raddle, including non-anarchists who share the values of the site.

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TheDeed wrote

I’ve been straddling the line between anarchism and full on communism for months, I’ve been an anarchist for years but I’m starting to shift

Someone radicalize me, or else I shall throw myself to the thirsty trots

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Vulpes wrote (edited )

I've pinned a link in my subreddit, which is just about the only Chapo adjacent sub to avoid the ban wave (for now). Hopefully more people come over.

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djpain wrote

Guess so, everything been banned on reddit. Even history has been scrubbed.

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gbsedillo wrote

I just feel completely demoralized. The shitelibs are destroying our outlets. They've got Bernie deepthroating the boot. They're making us look crazy for refusing to fall into line with a Republican Racist. I don't know what to do except for realizing that nothing will get better.

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Goonpilled wrote

Don't get too despairing. That there's more of them around means someone is funding more of them atm. Once the money dries up, the posts dry up. That was part of the power of the subreddit, no one was getting paid, so the amount of pressure it could keep up was fairly consistent.

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PringlesCaliphate wrote

rumor has it that the mods of the r/ sub are going to set up a Lemmy (reddit clone) instance that they will host themselves. But if enough people come here, then maybe

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bato wrote

Regardless of the future of this site, I want to let you all know I appreciate your presence in the online space.

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flipshod wrote

I'm one of those folks who signed up here months ago, but now that the sub is banned, I'm gonna be here every day hoping that the rest will follow.

(I'm an older guy and thus don't like technological change, but I'll cope somehow because the left has to have a place to congregate.)

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ziq wrote

If anyone is on the cth discord, convince others to follow you here.

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ItCameFromReddit wrote (edited )

Hi, I'm here now.

Edit: Do we do edit: here? If so: my first impression: Why would you make a reddit clone without ( ? , ? )

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paranoid_android wrote

sure alright, reddit sucks anyhow

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ziq wrote

It would be funny if banning chapo is what led to reddit going the way of digg.

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MichaelPeinovich wrote

Why are we not going to Saidit? Has better interface than this site

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lastfutures wrote

Raddle is free & open source built & run by anarchists. Saidit appears to be run by the far right.

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bloodrose wrote

Probably because the top 3 posts are right-wingers from subs like gendercritical whining and being welcomed into saidit. I wouldn't want to hang out with them.

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MichaelPeinovich wrote

So we're segmenting into two sites? Raddle for "left", Saidit for "right". Sounds like a good plan, and that's probably for the better.

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Raico wrote

Well, there's a few more in the case of the far-right, such as Ruqqus (promoted by WRD along others), T_D's site or MetaCanada's site (a copy-paste of T_D's one).

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