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leftous wrote

I agree with you. I think the reality is most people were (and currently still are) unaware of their past, and the extent of their destructive and manipulative behavior. I only researched this myself in the past couple days and learned of this all. Prior, I had a lot of respect for ziq as a friend here and as someone with principles, integrity, and intelligence. Now I can definitely say I have no idea what he's about or capable of. I hope he is able to change, but I'm afraid you're probably right since he has been doing this for so long and has hurt so many people. :/

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nijntje wrote

I think that's the weird part, not necessarily creating alts (like people pointed out, pretty standard behaviour for new forums, inflate interactions to make it seem more active) but sticking with it for so long, and in that way? I mean I'm new here, but reading it now… it's crossing a whole bunch of lines, over and over again, without remorse. idk, I tend to be pretty lenient with forgiveness but I think there's a difference between forgiveness and blind foolishness.

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leftous wrote

Right. We need to add protections on this site if we're going to resist the influence of alts. I have a few ideas.

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nijntje wrote

such as, if you don't mind?

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leftous wrote

The two I want to propose are:

  1. w/Disengagement - If two parties are engaged in a toxic feud, harassment, or targeted trolling: an agreement to "disengage" between the parties may be proposed by either party or members of the community. Think of it as the forum equivalent of a peace treaty between warring factions, or when more broadened a digital restraining order. This would help curb the amount of alts simply because their effectiveness at trolling or harassment would be immediately be rendered ineffective if they are required to disengage.

  2. Vouching or "Proof of Work" - I haven't fully thought this one through yet. But the idea is that we add to the voting requirements that a voting member must show they have participated in some initiative, propaganda/zine making, tech project,etc in order to get voting rights. Alternatively, a user can be vouched for by multiple voting members who have talked to them and verify they are a unique individual (or perhaps know them in person). This will make having alts far too tiresome since you'd need to socialize a lot on that account, or make a lot of contributions off-raddle.