[Serious] How do you deal with the fact there is no god?

Submitted by PainlessEphemera in atheism

I have what you would call atheist inclinations, but when I try to deal with the fact there is no god, that death is it, my mind doesn’t want to deal with it. The fact that there are innocent children who never had the chance to live, if there is no afterlife, which to me means they’ll never experience happiness or love or any other wonderful emotion, is just heartbreaking and unacceptable to me. My mind looks over the abyss and decides to be pseudo religious because at least some religions offer second chances and redemptions.

Sorry if I seem like I’m attacking atheism. I’m not very good at expressing myself. I truly want to be an atheist.


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ziq wrote (edited )

Energy doesn't cease to exist, whether we are alive or dead, we're still energy. Dying just means our energy is scattered back across the universe instead of being contained in a human body. We still exist, even if we're not conscious of it.

Physicist Aaron Freemen:

You want a physicist to speak at your funeral. You want the physicist to talk to your grieving family about the conservation of energy, so they will understand that your energy has not died. You want the physicist to remind your sobbing mother about the first law of thermodynamics; that no energy gets created in the universe, and none is destroyed.

You want your mother to know that all your energy, every vibration, every Btu of heat, every wave of every particle that was her beloved child remains with her in this world. You want the physicist to tell your weeping father that amid energies of the cosmos, you gave as good as you got.

And at one point you’d hope that the physicist would step down from the pulpit and walk to your brokenhearted spouse there in the pew and tell him that all the photons that ever bounced off your face, all the particles whose paths were interrupted by your smile, by the touch of your hair, hundreds of trillions of particles, have raced off like children, their ways forever changed by you.

And as your widow rocks in the arms of a loving family, may the physicist let her know that all the photons that bounced from you were gathered in the particle detectors that are her eyes, that those photons created within her constellations of electromagnetically charged neurons whose energy will go on forever.

You can hope your family will examine the evidence and satisfy themselves that the science is sound and that they’ll be comforted to know your energy’s still around. According to the law of the conservation of energy, not a bit of you is gone; you’re just less orderly.


PainlessEphemera wrote

I never thought of it like that. I like it. Sounds a bit hippie-ish, but I’m a hippie type anyway so that doesn’t matter.


NEOalquimista wrote (edited )

Perhaps having fun is the most appropriate purpose we can give to life. Anything else will raise the question:

why not cease to exist then? This would end all our problems.

But having fun needs no explanation. It's simply good and worth living for. We keep developing our understanding of the universe to find new ways to have fun. It's fun to be curious.


zombie_berkman wrote

Well the universe doesn't give a shit about anyone and I didn't exist for 13 billion years, I'll exist for at most 100 some years, then I'll go back to non existing for a billion billion years until heat death. So it's not really like much is happening. Might as well take it for face value and see what happens


sudo wrote

Well, I don't believe that there is no god, I lack a belief in a god. As far as the possibility of not existing anymore after death, I don't care that much, since I won't be around to experience nonexistence. I was dead for 13 billion years before now, and I didn't mind that.


Enkara wrote

The idea of dying and no longer existing is comforting to me.


amongstclouds wrote

I've been an atheist for as long as I can remember -- I think what fueled it was when I was about seven-years-old. I remember watching about something horrible in the news and without quite understanding what was going on I just remember feeling so bad and confused. The next day my grandmother goes on and on about how 'great god is,' and do you want to know why? Because she was able to afford a new car, which she already had two of in good working condition.

From that moment on I told myself I would never respect any 'power' that allows innocent people to die every day while he answers the prayer of some privileged white woman because she wants a new Mustang. It sickened me.


mftrhu wrote

I became atheist when faced with yet another senseless death. I could not reconcile belief in a just god with all of what goes down in the world - if there is a superior entity, either it can't do anything, or it is evil, or just doesn't care.

So I decided I'd step in its shoes and try to set things right. I have already the arrogance down pat, and I'm working on the rest.

Not much more you can do - distract yourself from the abyss, get angry at it, do what you need so you can focus to just do your best at every step. No amount of wishing will change things otherwise, no matter how nice it'd be if no-one had to suffer.


Cheeks wrote

What I want to know is why you wouldnt find the absence of god liberating?


PainlessEphemera wrote

It’s not that. I’m fine with god not existing. In fact, I’m fine with my personally not existing after death. The problem is with my family, friends, and innocent children not existing after death. It bothers me a lot.


TheNewKing wrote

I never really needed god in any way. I don't think we are created, that there is a purpose or an afterlife. I am here because my parents had sex. I eat because I desire it, which keeps me alive. I see no logic or evidence for an afterlife or anything like that, so I have no reason to believe that.

Basically I try to survive until I die.


Blood wrote

god is real and you are one of his turd nuggets


000 wrote

Take what you said about innocent children and apply it to innocent animals. Do animals go to heaven? The bible says not. So then apply that to humans.


jadedctrl wrote (edited )

The fact that there are innocent children who never had the chance to live, if there is no afterlife, which to me means they’ll never experience happiness or love or any other wonderful emotion, is just heartbreaking and unacceptable to me.

It is terrible and and sad... It's sad the universe doesn't care, but it's just a fact. I've thought about terrible things happening to good people and people who never had a chance so much that I'm kind of numb to it now. It gets easier. That isn't to say I'm apathetic, or suggest you try to to be-- I mean to say that numbness on the surface-level (I.E., thinking about the idea) while still understanding the horrible significance of it, only feeling it when you think it would be useful for some reason. That's kind of the attitude I suggest, really, if you get what I mean. It keeps you healthy and keeps you from being apathetic to others' suffering.
There's no objective meaning, and that's alright. All there is, really, is trying to have some fun, be good to your friends and family, and trying to better the conditions of your fellow humans. It's all super-subjective and small-scale, but that doesn't matter. We're tiny peas, so it'd only make sense we care about pea-sized things, no?