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polpotisevil2 wrote

How is bettering yourself "internalizing the lies of capital"? Why is encouraging people to learn or find a way to spend time helping themselves instead of a corporation a bad thing? I'm surprised this isn't seen as a chance to teach people that there is value in themselves and to help them see and achieve goals that aren't set by capitalism.

This does not make me a "heartless gullible shithead", if you are personally affected by the pandemic and are using the time to cope or something I have no issue with that

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Bezotcovschina wrote

Because, I think, the modern "better yourself" thing is a capital propaganda. No, you don't need to be under constant pressure of a need to learn new skills and know more things to be a better member of society and more productive worker. And shaming people into this (as probably does the original image) is heartless and gullible.

No one saying you shouldn't learn a thing or two that will make your daily life easier if you want to. But productivity shaming is the lie of capital.

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masque wrote (edited )

We can go a level deeper, though.

Obtaining "more knowledge" or "a new skill" is not really productivity, in the sense that neither endeavor directly produces anything. The most well-hidden capitalist propaganda here is the idea that these things only have value due to their possible use for production, and by extension that working on these things is "productive."

But if someone sees skills or knowledge as valuable in and of themselves, then it's possible to encourage others to pursue them without engaging in any capitalist productivity shaming.

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Niobium62 wrote

agreed. my own brother became such an uptight jackass because of this very neoliberal koolaid he's been drinking

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