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ratratratrat wrote
Reply to comment by kin in In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
i think it depends on the person, personally i am fine without hormones it’s just my chest that i can’t deal with, while others would want more done, but that also has a lot to deal with the expectations put on us by society. my chest is not just gender related, but so much of ‘passing’ and surgery is just confirming to gender roles, and i feel like a lot of gender dysphoria wouldn’t exist if the concept of sex/gender didnt exist either. i believe trans liberation can only come when we accept that as trans people we should not try to conform to cis standards of gender but abolish them instead.
fortmis wrote
Reply to comment by Tequila_Wolf in In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
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Tequila_Wolf OP wrote
Reply to comment by kin in In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
I'm not going to go into detail about it now, but here's an inadequate summary:
The entire notion of a gender binary is an effect of reductionist, segregationist, excluding tendency inherent to state-thinking.
A trans woman who has had surgery is no more or less a woman than a cis woman who has had surgery. But it's our completely socially-constructed invented idea of what a woman should be that creates the dysphoria in both women that causes them to desire to change their bodies in the first place. A practice of anarchy would include destroying any kind of fixed abstract notion of a binary (or trinary, or whatever) as the base for anybody's sense of lacking something in relation to a notion of gender.
Destroying civilisation is inseparable from destroying the infrastructure that creates these desires. It is part of the feminist notion that there is nothing wrong with our bodies, nothing lacking at all in the first place.
There's more to say about it on many levels, but this is how it reflects what I've said in this post.
kin wrote
Reply to comment by ratratratrat in In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
Sorry the shit question and I don't want to be tone deaf. How much weight do you think modern hormones and surgical procedures have in trans wellness and quality of life? I agree with you but it's not my place to have this opinion or even debating this - the argument you have also toucha how other non-white or non-western cultures have about queerness/gender nonconformity and etc -
And if many of us are on board of gender nihilism and radical anarchoqueer theory.. those questions are already answered if don't want to fall behind liberal wokeness or leftist prociv discourse (prociv or antiAnarchist, not sure what worste)
Anyway people like you should have more weight on this discussion and your voice heard
roanoke9 wrote
Reply to In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
Great points- no criticism but a comment: you are so so generous (nice steelman usage) to let them assume 50% access to the full benefits of modern med tech.
ratratratrat wrote
Reply to comment by kin in In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
as a trans person, surgery and medication also exist without civ, hormones can be synthesized from animal and plant sources and surgery can also be performed, tbh i would trust the cavemen that performed trepination on people during the ice age to do my top surgery over a modern surgeon.
kin wrote
Reply to comment by Tequila_Wolf in In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
The main difference is when framing transqueerness in surgical procedure and medication - I won't engage much bc I am ignorant about it and I am cis.
I just know enough to think they are weaponizing identity and queerness to hide whiteness and middle-class liberalism
Tequila_Wolf OP wrote
Reply to comment by kin in In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
The transphobia question is engaged in a similar kind of way so I'm not sure why it would even be a separate kind of card.
kin wrote
Reply to In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
I would do this for any other condition affected by civilization and ultimately they draw the transphobia card. if queer and trans theory depend on civ we are reading the wrong theory imho
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Perfect for walking down while holding hands 🫱🏾🫲🏻
BlackedAIX wrote
Reply to Many Europeans want climate action – but less so if it changes their lifestyle, shows poll by ziq
Hypocrisy is just a modern necessity for the West.
subrosa wrote
Reply to comment by NOISEBOB in Many Europeans want climate action – but less so if it changes their lifestyle, shows poll by ziq
"[distant not-me] must act."
NOISEBOB wrote
Reply to comment by ikk in Many Europeans want climate action – but less so if it changes their lifestyle, shows poll by ziq
Yeah but you could have stopped at “the politicians must act now”
ikk wrote
Reply to comment by NOISEBOB in Many Europeans want climate action – but less so if it changes their lifestyle, shows poll by ziq
"the politicians must act now so i can have my humane-slaughtered climate-friendly bacon"
NOISEBOB wrote
Reply to Many Europeans want climate action – but less so if it changes their lifestyle, shows poll by ziq
“I worry about the environment but I still need my car”
kin wrote
Reply to Many Europeans want climate action – but less so if it changes their lifestyle, shows poll by ziq
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Bezotcovschina wrote
Reply to Agriculture Vs. Horticulture by CircleA
A common critique of anarcho-primitivism and other anti-civ theory is that civilization and agriculture were practiced by indigenous people before colonization.
How can it be a legit critique? Even if indigenous people practiced agriculture before colonization?
Tangentially related, but small rant:
In some places indigenous people practiced agriculture, in other ones places they did not. In some places the hierarchy of indigenous groups was created by colonizers in other ones it existed before. Don't need to put all the different indigenous people all around the world under one one umbrella, pretending all of them have been lived free from oppression in a true harmony with the nature, unhierarchical societies without gender binaries and roles, without hierarchy-forming religions. Looks like some sort of fetishisation.
Majrelende wrote (edited )
Reply to Agriculture Vs. Horticulture by CircleA
Scott's The Art of Not Being Governed gives an indication of which kinds of cultivation are able to be best exploited by authorities: legible monocultures, easily recognisable as such, and which can harvested all at once, stored, and transported. In SE Asia, that meant padi cultivation. States actually tried to mandate it so as to squash the more ungovernable types of cultivation, which included swiddening, with crops such as upland rice, maize, barley, and root vegetables. When pressure from states was high, anarchic people might switch totally to foraging to escape.
I don't agree with the traditional primitivist stances on agriculture and think they are excessively inflexible. We could restate them, not as stances but as statements. For instance, foraging for one's food (including perennial cultivation) can increase personal freedom and independence, and is less easily appropriated by states.
Death to ideology!
Rat wrote
Reply to Agriculture Vs. Horticulture by CircleA
I bet you could go on and on about this, and I would welcome it!
kin wrote
Bolsonaro saw the list of all banned chemicals and thought, hmmm I think we need all these back in the menu, bad approved all the nasty stuff.
I guess the big farmers don't apply themselves the poison in the tobacco and soy fields
IHateTories69420 wrote
Reply to comment by idkalice in An Eco-Pessimist Revolt Against Fascism My favorite Langer essay. Really dismantles the boogeyman that is "ecofascism" and it isn't real or existent by GoddamnedVoodooMagic
aw shit they always seemed so chill when i've seen them in podcasts and stuff
ArmyOfNone wrote
Reply to comment by kin in ‘Hipster eugenics’: why is the media cosying up to people who want to build a super race? by ziq
John McDEWITT
Majrelende wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by ziq in ‘Hipster eugenics’: why is the media cosying up to people who want to build a super race? by ziq
Still using a calendar with two months named after such personages...
mjem wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by Fool in An Eco-Pessimist Revolt Against Fascism My favorite Langer essay. Really dismantles the boogeyman that is "ecofascism" and it isn't real or existent by GoddamnedVoodooMagic
though i have only insufficient knowledge about the contemporary political movement, i'm pretty sure that "authoritarian back to nature" ideas have been around for a very long time.
tao te ching is a fair example of this; written in a distinctly lobbyist tone, the collected essays argue that the philosopher king (treated as a given) can "rule better" when the death penality, the border, the weapons and armed force (all as givens) are kept "minimal/tranquilized", while property, politeness, civil order are upheld as sacred
Tequila_Wolf OP wrote
Reply to comment by roanoke9 in In the second of my series on why pro-civ people should try harder, let's have a quick look at diabetes. by Tequila_Wolf
Yes, that could be an additional layer of depth. I was keeping my argument to statistics people could look up without much fuss.