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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote (edited )

You know, I don't know texts offhand. After your post earlier today I went on a spree of anti-tech reading and came across some stuff but I don't remember exactly which said the things.

Most texts do only have a problem with industrial technology or capitalism-made technology, because of the ways that the values bound up in the making of technologies reproduce the values of those technologies. Of the arguments I'm aware of that are completely anti-tech, there are just these few (and I'd also appreciate readings that elaborate or add to any of these):

  • Resource extraction is a problem for all technology, including solar etc, not just for the parts, but for the machinery/infrastructure that makes/transports/etc the parts.
  • Technology requires specialised knowledge, and not everyone can be a specialist, so undue power tends to accrue to the specialists and/or the people controlling them.
  • Technology here is generally defined as tools that define the way that you interact with something rather than tools you control completely. There's a good way to phrase this but I've forgotten it. This point though is tied to the point that technology is alienating, as something that mediates our relation to things, putting us at one or more removes from what we affect.

I'll edit this if I think up new stuff or think up some good references. I'd also like to get my ducks in a row about this.

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RedEmmaSpeaks wrote

That's a bit of a confusing question. After all, the wheel is a form of technology when you come right down to it.

My objections regarding tech, and I imagine many anti-tech anarchists feel the same, is the Constant Production for the Sake of Production that governs our culture. We have easily produced enough clothing, so probably everyone in the world can wear a new outfit every day without repeating previous ourselves, yet for some reason, we can't say, "Okay, we've produced enough clothes. Why don't we close the factories and work on something else?" No, the factories have to keep going, burning through nonrenewable resources, forever poisoning the Earth.

To often in discussions regarding tech, people think in absolutes, believe that "tech is evil and must be destroyed" or "we can either have tech or live like cavemen." Both mindsets are entirely too simplistic. Rather than throw out everything willy-nilly, why not hold onto what works and jettison what doesn't?

Maybe rather than constantly make new gadgets, why not say, "Fuck Planned Obsolescence!" and regain the Right to Repair. Therefore, when something breaks down, we either try to fix it or break it down to parts, which can be used for other projects. If someone wants their gadget to have part X, rather than throw out a perfectly good device, why not modify their device, so it has part X/feature X? We could have kind of a perpetual yard sale where people can dump off stuff they no longer want, so someone else can pick it up or again, it can be broken down into parts for some other projects.

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MHC wrote

Float up out of your chair like an astronaut in the space station. Prove that physics isn't real!

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