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Reply to comment by deleteduser123456 in The Anarcho-Primitivist Who Wants Us All to Give Up Technology by ziq

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BunnyBop wrote

That's a random accusation. Think maybe they're getting upvotes cause they have a point?

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thelegendarybirdmonster wrote

Of course, anticiv was born in the 70s and was brute and unrefined. People have had 50 yrs to think about it, take the best parts and trash the rest.

Read about post-civ, it's even better!

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BunnyBop wrote

You know there's a page for recent comments people use, right?

Also there was, what, two upvotes to their comment after you responded? Wow, what riches.

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thelegendarybirdmonster wrote

comments are weighted more than votes so controversial topics get posts to the frontpage. This post will probably stay there until tomorrow.

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arduinna wrote (edited )

Its historically a pretty polarized topic on Raddle.

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JoeMemo wrote

Only because people don't understand that green anarchism isn't a totalitarian ideology that's going to force shape society the way e.g. transhumanism would.

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arduinna wrote

Both would heavily shape society. The question is whether its for the better. I dunno the answer myself so I mostly stay out.

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JoeMemo wrote

But individualist anarchists like primitivists aren't trying to force their ideals on anyone. They aim to withdraw from society.

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arduinna wrote

In this article the clear hope is to entirely dismantle our current society (something I can't really argue against) rather than to simply withdraw, especially given the person in question has Literally Zero Praxis. There's also individualist transhumanists, who just work on open source designs for prosthetics and such. Both have individualist currents within them which tend to be the ones I prefer.

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JoeMemo wrote (edited )

I've often wondered if one can really be an individualist and be pro-civilization. It's collectivist by nature, in that one cannot escape its influence or really withdraw from it fully.

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arduinna wrote (edited )

That's a question beyond what I can answer based on what I know, but I'd probably define myself as not pro-civilization yet also not entirely anti-technology.

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ziq OP wrote

This is the reason so many anticivs reject anarcho primitivism, it's grown increasingly dogmatic and ideological to the point where a lot of them are just as collectivist as ancoms in wanting to recreate society in their image.

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arduinna wrote

Do you have any anti-civ primers that aren't written in language that gives me more of a headache than English Literature classes do?

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