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OdiousOutlaw wrote

Speaking from my own experience, I have yet to debate with a "left," libertarian that doesn't unknowingly advocate for unjust violence against those who don't voluntarily forfeit private property for the good of the collective

What the fuck is unjust violence? Conversations between AnCaps and AnComs are so aggravating to look at because they don't realize how goddamn alien their definitions of what "private property" are to the other side.

Left libertarians are fine (I say as a lefty), but anarchy is extremism and will never produce a livable society. The idea is to have only as much government as is needed to facilitate freedom and opportunity for all people and not so much that it's used as a cudgel to oppress its own people or others.

A worthless platitude. That's not how governments function; a government does not "facilitate freedom", it, at best, regulates it and, at worst, seeks to stomp it out.

If I understand correctly, its based on the ideal that everyone is "enlightened" enough to realize that voluntarily pooling resources and distributing according to need is good for the individual. Also assumes everyone is pulling their weight. Nice ideal, but unworkable in the real world.

A "Classical Liberal" has no business talking about what ideals are and aren't "workable" in "the real world".

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