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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

You're missing my point. I'm strictly asserting that people of European descent tend to have lighter skin tones and more similar eye shape compared to other homo sapiens from other parts of the world.

I'm not asserting they had, have, or should have a unity of purpose, nor that they had, have, or should have any kind of superiority of any kind over other homo sapiens, nor that they have been humane in their treatment of each other or others.

If someone with skin tone like mine says, "I don't see color", they get blasted for being blind to bigoted treatment of people with different skin tones. So now I'm saying, "I see color", I recognize a difference between whites and blacks, and whites and Latinos, and so forth, and I'm looking for ways non-whites are mistreated and trying to do what I can. And now you're screaming at me for using the term white at all.

What alternative term would you have me use in its place to described the privileged - but not necessarily wealthy - class of people in the US?

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

"""Are fucking kidding me that you're gonna call people as "white" now based on their class?"""

You have my point backwards. I'm saying there is no white race in genetic terms. I'm saying white is a social class that has unfair privileges in European and especially North American society based on light skin appearance. Not that it's right, not that it's desirable, simply that it's what the world is like today. My first comment on this discussion is that there is no genocide or other oppression against people who have light skin.

I'm not saying skin tones make a difference in any genetic, moral, spiritual, etc... terms. I'm saying that in modern American society skin tone should not make a difference in class but does. "White" is my label for the class that has an unfair advantage, and the distinguishing feature of that class is simply lighter skin color - on average.

And these are hugely broad categories. I realize Scandinavians and Italians and Greek generally have different skin tones and other characteristics, and Iroquois and Sioux have different skin tones and other characteristics, and the Aztec and Tupis, and Berber and Zulu, and so forth.

You and I are going around in circles. I think there is some kind of communication disconnect here.

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