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ziq wrote

Does it exist anywhere? I can't think of any examples.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

I can't either; I think the writers were just being cautious.

Whiteness is global, same as capital.

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JayGrym wrote

I agree mostly with the article. It did, however, feel like their definition of racism is a conglomerate of systemic racism and prejudice rather than a generalized definition. Once I realized what they defined as racism I had to agree. Do yourselves a favor and don't read the comments on that page, racists didn't like the article and guess what they resorted to! That's right! Hate speech! Big surprise.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

What would a generalised definition of racism be?

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JayGrym wrote

Treating people differently because of their race would be a generalized definition. A more classic definition would be similar to patriotism (I dislike that definition too lol). Holding one's own race as superior to others (usually in the context of white supremacy), and other races as inferior.

From my perspective, us white people are genetically inferior to the groups of indigenous Hunter/gatherers but that's likely another conversation by itself.

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

In a racist world, we should expect definitions like 'treating people differently because of their race' because it reduces racism to interactions between individuals and does not address the ways that racism most powerfully functions; as a power structure that expresses itself in many small ways continuously, including in interactions between individuals.

Which is to say, the generalised definition itself is racist because it obscures what is really bad about racism, and the reason it is the generalised definition is just because the world is racist, and not because that's what racism is.

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JayGrym wrote

That actually makes more sense than the actual definitions. I've always thought about racism as either systemic or individual (likely because of definitions I'm familiar with). Is it safe to assume they should be considered the same?

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

I'm not sure what you're asking me. I usually just say that racism is 'structural' to mean that it's built into society - this understands things in terms of systems and how they manifest at individual and other levels. e.g. In terms of laws, in terms of how far away people live from where they work, in terms of how likely they are to get loans, in terms of how seriously doctors take their complaints of pain, in terms of how likely they are to be apprehended by police, how likely artificial intelligence is to discriminate against them; endless things that aren't abstract systems or mere interactions between individuals.

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rot wrote

I thought about it and anything i could think of was retribution for the actions of white colonizers or racism against groups now considered white

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Tequila_Wolf wrote

I love when trolls come to contest stuff and only end up increasing how long the article is on the front page.

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fmj77 wrote

Disagree with the article. I have met quite a few blacks over the years who believed they were superior to whites BECAUSE of their skin color. Basically, lack of skin pigmentation is a genetic defect that makes whites inferior.

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bloodrose wrote

It seems like you didn't read the article. What you are discussing is what the article calls prejudice. It had a very specific definition of racism that it was arguing/discussing. It's an interesting read.

On a lighter note (no pun intended!), I have to say I agree my pale ass skin is a weakness, lol. I can't go out in the sun without chemicals on my skin or my skin fully covered.

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fmj77 wrote

I did read the article and I still disagree. Calling someone inferior because of their skin color is the epitome of racism and I do know some blacks that feel that way about whites. What about if the situation involved a black employer refusing to hire whites based on race? It does indeed happen, though I'm sure not as often.

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Freux wrote

You should read those comments: https://raddle.me/f/Whiteness/66160/-/comment/108443

Whites deal better in less sunny environment, blacks deal better in heavy sun. Nothing more than years of adaptation to a climate. Prejudice base on skin colour is quite ridiculous but it isn't systematic, you aren't suffering in your everyday life because some ignorant think you are inferior based on your skin colour.