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ergdj5 wrote (edited )

I'll have a weak crack at an answer: Unfortunately most things people who are white and vegan do.

Have many of them done substantial reading in intersectional feminism, and then the various BBI studies theoretical frameworks (counterhumanism, black optimism, afropessimism, decolonial theory, study of caste)? Having a basic grip on what all these people are saying serves to protect yourself from some of the basic racist shit that people tend to do in a world where its easier to humanise non-human animals than other dehumanised peoples.


ziq wrote (edited )

If we're talking about liberals, probably none of them. But even vegan anarchists can be problematic. Then again very few 'anarchists' in general should even be using that moniker.


amongstclouds wrote (edited )

When they claim cruelty-free products exist while workers remain exploited and the environment continues getting destroyed... at least they can maintain their personal morality!

Also vegans here in Raddle don't want to accept a vegan diet isn't affordable for everyone, especially those like me who live in an area with more kill factories than agriculture. Even then the crops planted are cotton and tobacco. Then they call anyone who isn't vegan 'psychos' so they can continue the moral posturing.

Most of them would rather shame individuals than attack the power structure that create such a climate


ziq wrote

don't want to accept a vegan diet isn't affordable for everyone

I've noticed this too, people assuming everyone comes from the same middle class white background as them. A lot of people live in neighborhoods where you can't even get fresh or unprocessed food, let-alone vegan food.


amongstclouds wrote

I've been told by many of them that animals are worth more than humans and this is just gross and shows they have no desire to truly end the domination and exploitation if it means they can feel good about their meal.


retiredaccount wrote

I'm not really an expert on this but a lot of people on /r/vegan call themselves "abolitionists" and it seems kinda gross on a number of levels to compare animal agriculture to racialized slavery.