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moonlune wrote (edited )

NOOOO!!!! the angry vegan's rant on the obscure internet forum will hurt the feelings of this specific group of people who don't have phones I need to protect them and make sure they're not included in the angry vegan's violent blanket statements written in english languge!!!

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notcreativename wrote

I was responding to a question in good faith, because I happen to be in a position to have a tangent of this specific argument come up fairly regularly in my community.

It's been my experience in obscure little groups that checks are appreciated. So when someone rants hard, and includes vulnerable people in their reticle that in no way deserve the animosity, it's just been common place to say "yo, bud, there's this perspective here that you're missing"

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moonlune wrote (edited )

Oh sorry it's just that this argument has been used so much by people to justify them buying meat from the store. No offense but if there's a counterargument to veganism, vegan anarchists have probably thought about it.

Also I was angry for other irl reasons when I wrote that comment I could have been more polite sorry.

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notcreativename wrote

It happens, no harm here. I'm glad that I'm not making your day worse, and I'm sorry too if I touched on common glittering generalities that get used to undermine the cause.

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notcreativename wrote

Also, if we're calm.

This isn't an insult, just something that's a bit concerning. The comment about not having phones has a bit of the colonial racism hanging onto it. It's factually incorrect, and potentially biasing Native people as technologically backwards.

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moonlune wrote

I don't think there are that many people who have the ability to check raddle while only surviving on hunting (no gathering) and for which a vegan diet would be impossible.

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lettuceLeafer wrote (edited )

https://curve.carleton.ca/system/files/etd/24cdf505-d85c-4333-a1f3-8b66ef3716ed/etd_pdf/6cf1156499c8c2bc51651514fc13097b/castleton-inuitidentityandtechnologyanexplorationof.pdf

Wrong many Inuits use computers n stuff. Hence said study about social media use of Inuit youth. Plus I've seen a ton of pics of Inuits ridding snowmobiles which isn't a phone but many Inuits are living super primative.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are Inuits living in a way with almost no influence of western culture. But like Inuit is a broad term and many of whom are pretty integrated into what would be a life similar to u or I.

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moonlune wrote

In which case those who are assimilated into western civilization should probably be able to consider veganism and aren't trapped into eating meat for life?

tbh I don't know/care much about the fringe populations who only have access to meat but are still able to be offended by me telling people not to eat it.

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lettuceLeafer wrote

yeah I totally agree. Just its important to be careful to not portray indigenous groups as a common stereotype which is hard to avoid because often the anti vegan prompt is someone racist.

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