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moonlune wrote (edited )

[vegan people's goal is] to end the animal agriculture industry through boycotting it's products.

Not quite. I'm vegan because I can't stand to not be vegan. And I do vegan proselytism because I can't stand to not do it. this discussion on raddle goes deeper on the subject iirc. The discussion in our vegan forum is pretty high quality in general imo, even thought the discussions from a few years ago have been drowned out :)

However, I too am annoyed by the people who define veganism only as a dogmatic checklist of things you can do, things you can eat, things you can't. If you don't think about consequences of what you do and never adjust yourself to different situation, you're not practicing veganism but just following a new-age religion.

Arguably, and this is a hot take, only animal right activists are truely vegan, the rest of us are just plant based and do not do enough for the animals to claim ourselves vegan.

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Ishkah OP wrote (edited )

Fair enough. And coolio will have to look around more, I liked the top comment on that linked thread.

I would really push back against the hot take though, it would just be incredibly counter productive having people be shy about whether they can identify as vegan or not just because they haven't yet done activism. It would reduce our ability to find people who may go onto being dedicated enough to organize to make changes to our communities and institutions. And plant based doesn't cut it because you can be plant-based for simply health reasons.

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