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rot OP wrote

The simple fact is that the bees are enslaved.

this was what I was debating with myself, I thought that bees are definitely exploited but aren't captive or killed like dairy cows. Turns out i was wrong. thanks for the link.

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BemoanAndRaddle wrote

i know someone who keeps bees. Bees can't be enslaved, they are just used. What bee keepers have been lamenting is how global warming is rapidly killing them, comparing the bee industry to the mammal industry is like apples to oranges.

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rot OP wrote

that doesn't seem to be the case, bees are alive and are kept by beekeepers the same way other animals are kept. I just wasn't sure if veganism excluded honey as it isn't from the bee's body just their food production.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

wow, you know I actually was educated by this. Had no idea about most of the stuff under the exploitation section, I don't usually eat honey but damn

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rot OP wrote

that website answered way more than i even thought to ask

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