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AntifaNI wrote (edited )

Reply to by ziq

Starmer’s party also faced a challenge from another former Labour MP in the form of Simon Danczuk, who was suspended from the party in 2015 after sending inappropriate messages to a teenager. Danczuk, Rochdale’s MP from 2010 to 2017, was standing for Reform UK, the anti-immigration party founded by Nigel Farage.

I'm sure his campaign leaflets made for interesting reading. Any mention of grooming gangs™ ?

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AntifaNI OP wrote (edited )

Does the proposed ban extend to cleaners, plumbers and other maintenance staff ?

And what of those charged with enforcing it. Are they going to have to be of the correct biological gender as well to say nothing of the firefighters/rescue workers in the event of the place burning down ?

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kano wrote

Reply to comment by Penguinblue in Online safety bill by SnowyKnave

Well I think the 'fundamental' issue with democracy is that it's authoritarian. Even something like Brexit, it was voted for, but that was more like an advisory thing, the govt wasn't strictly required to implement the result of the referendum anyway.

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Penguinblue wrote

Reply to comment by SnowyKnave in Online safety bill by SnowyKnave

The fact you responded 'Labour are not realistically better' is exactly my point, I didn't mention them in my post. They aren't, obviously, and yet they are the other most popular party and therefore the assumption seems to be they are the alternative. People vote for these parties, people are the electorate. In what way is this not an issue with the electorate?

The fundamental flaw of democracy is that it allows an ignorant public to vote on extremely important issues - I'll point to Brexit and the "What is the EU?" Google searches following the referendum as an example. The electorate in this country has been kept ignorant and distanced by politics because that benefits the ruling class.

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SnowyKnave OP wrote

Reply to comment by !deleted50965 in Online safety bill by SnowyKnave

So say Signal refuses to comply with government requests to put “backdoors” in encryption. Then government takes legal action against Signal e.g. tries to sue them or whatever.

Signal could just not offer services to devices in the UK, so yes a VPN would get around these issues individually. However,, if noone around you is using WhatsApp or Signal or whatever because you need a VPN, you will struggle to use the apps and lots more of communication is no longer endtoend encrypted.

Will the government actually do this? Well theyve passed it into law but ultimately fuck knows.

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SnowyKnave OP wrote (edited )

Reply to comment by Penguinblue in Online safety bill by SnowyKnave

I dont think labour are realistically any better than the tories though - especially on issues like privacy. I think its not so much an issue of the “electorate” and voting.

I think its more the public collectively allows and even enables shittiness from corporations and the state ect in so many ways just to keep the “order” that they passively benefit from. Sorta like how people generally support environmental initiatives but want long prison sentences for people protesting the governments policies.

Saying that - this bill seems pretty popular unfortunately. Probably because its dressed in save the children rhetoric

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SnowyKnave OP wrote (edited )

Reply to comment by !deleted50965 in Online safety bill by SnowyKnave

https://signal.org/blog/uk-online-safety-bill/

Essentially the UK government wants to use this bill to make service providers responsible for the content sent on them - even encrypted content. End to end encryption sorta doesnt work if thats the case, so some companies like Signal are threatening to potentially leave

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Penguinblue wrote

In an ideal world this bill will work exactly as the government are saying it will and the NSPCC chief seems to hope it will: children will be safe from abuse and exploitation online. Except that the current government has given us no reason to trust them.

Instead this is going to be used to censor and control the population, in the same way the Police and Crime Bill was passed with the aim of keeping order in the streets which just means cracking down on any protest. I have no faith this government has my best interests in mind.

I hope WhatsApp and Signal follow through on their threats to leave the UK. It's clearly going to take a lot for the electorate to be shifted on their views of the Tories. This fucking country...

Anyone got recommendations for a VPN?

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