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uanon OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by fortmis in From Ukraine to Palestine - Occupation is a Crime by uanon
Friendly fire deaths constituting the minority of total deaths (not surprising if you have studied some other similar standoffs, hostage-rescue situations and so on) doesn't change the fact that the vast majority were killed by Hamas-led militants. Some people see an incident like this and decide that Hamas didn't really kill anybody. Which is ridiculous and also, given that often the people loudly saying these things (and often exagerrating them) fully celebrated the attack, it's unclear why exactly they even mention this - if Hamas attack was to be celebrated, dead Israelis are good either way, whoever's projectile killed them.
Similarly, instances of Palestinian rockets failing and falling inside Gaza constitute only a tiny minority of Palestinian casualties, most of whom were obviously killed by Israel.
yaspora wrote
Reply to comment by uanon in From Ukraine to Palestine - Occupation is a Crime by uanon
I don't think I said any awful shit
You called the Hamas thing "pogromist", which is wild because pogroms are mass violence used by oppressor groups against the oppressed. In the Levant, Palestinians are the oppressed & Israelis are the oppressor, so you got it precisely backwards.
Hamas's statement is obviously propaganda, but it is Israelis who've been actually carrying out pogroms against Palestinians & Black refugees for about 2 decades. I'm sure you won't change your mind but now people who missed that comment know what the deal is.
fortmis wrote
Reply to comment by uanon in From Ukraine to Palestine - Occupation is a Crime by uanon
their own eyes
Whose eyes exactly? Even the Israeli army is opening an investigation into the possibility that it's own soldiers killed Israelis on Oct. 7
kano wrote
Reply to comment by uanon in From Ukraine to Palestine - Occupation is a Crime by uanon
No I didn't because I was mad at you.
you being skeptical of the source was not my issue as I hope was clear. people accepting all claims made by any (authoritarian) group at face value are probably making a mistake. I'm not going to quote what you said here but if that wasn't your intention then idk if its a language ting or what but 100% I think that what's you did.
also just so we are clear I didn't ban you because of holocaust relativisation. that's not really my issue. I'm not really sure that 'nothing is like the Holocaust except the Holocaust itself'. I banned you because you compared violent armed anti colonial reistance to the Holocaust - which should also probably be understood as one of the more extreme examples of colonial violence. and fits in pretty perfectly in a long line of fucking atrocities committed by various imperial powers. hope its clear.
uanon OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by kano in From Ukraine to Palestine - Occupation is a Crime by uanon
I don't think I said any awful shit, and you didn't give me a chance to answer by banning me from the relevant forum. My intention wasn't to compare Oct. 7 to the Holocaust (nothing is like the Holocaust except the Holocaust itself) but to resist denialism of blatantly obvious atrocities that were commited. Then again, if some people choose to believe lies from a Hamas propaganda document over what their own eyes and extensive documentation tells them about intentional killing of civilians, Jewish and non-Jewish alike, it's their choice.
I have significant disagreements with the linked article and find it dishonest in numerous ways.
kano wrote
Since like the first part of this article is about condemning Hamas and you said some pretty awful shit recently, I will link you to this article On “Pro-Palestine” Hypocrisy
kris wrote
Reply to comment by Lettuce in St Petersburg Governor Alexander Beglov has claimed after meeting with wounded Russian soldiers that they knew what they were fighting for after seeing toilets "for gender-neutral people" in Ukrainian schools. by Lettuce
funny thing is i dont think i've ever seen one irl
mima wrote
Reply to Ukraine should have negotiated peace, now they are a failed state dependent on the US by jorgesumle4
Where is the "radical anti authoritarian perspective" here?
Lettuce OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by kris in St Petersburg Governor Alexander Beglov has claimed after meeting with wounded Russian soldiers that they knew what they were fighting for after seeing toilets "for gender-neutral people" in Ukrainian schools. by Lettuce
Ah I'm jealous that u get to live in a country just filled with gender neutral toliets /j
kris wrote
Reply to comment by Lettuce in St Petersburg Governor Alexander Beglov has claimed after meeting with wounded Russian soldiers that they knew what they were fighting for after seeing toilets "for gender-neutral people" in Ukrainian schools. by Lettuce
by 'this country i meant' i'm ukrainian but still agreed. it's ridiculous
Lettuce OP wrote
Reply to comment by kris in St Petersburg Governor Alexander Beglov has claimed after meeting with wounded Russian soldiers that they knew what they were fighting for after seeing toilets "for gender-neutral people" in Ukrainian schools. by Lettuce
Omg! U don't want to get blown up to fight against bathrooms for gender neutral ppl!!! /J
Ikr this article was so funny to read. I Mena depressing bc homophobic regime but also like damn talk about going over the top.
kris wrote
Reply to St Petersburg Governor Alexander Beglov has claimed after meeting with wounded Russian soldiers that they knew what they were fighting for after seeing toilets "for gender-neutral people" in Ukrainian schools. by Lettuce
thats the most stupid thing i've heard to come out of this war and i fuckin live in this country
TheJawns wrote (edited )
SnowyKnave wrote
Reply to comment by Lettuce in St Petersburg Governor Alexander Beglov has claimed after meeting with wounded Russian soldiers that they knew what they were fighting for after seeing toilets "for gender-neutral people" in Ukrainian schools. by Lettuce
what the fuck
I dont know which reality is more absurd:
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the government fabricated this
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the soldiers believe this
Lettuce OP wrote
Reply to St Petersburg Governor Alexander Beglov has claimed after meeting with wounded Russian soldiers that they knew what they were fighting for after seeing toilets "for gender-neutral people" in Ukrainian schools. by Lettuce
why did you go to war
I'm pointing my life on the line fighting against gender nuetral toliets!!!!!!!
Sid_Knee wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by kano in News from Ukraine Bulletin 72 (13 November 2023): A Digest of News from Ukrainian sources [PDF] by uanon
regardless of the opinion of the site its source for this article is the official NED grant database, which it links to.
Sid_Knee wrote
Reply to comment by uanon in News from Ukraine Bulletin 72 (13 November 2023): A Digest of News from Ukrainian sources [PDF] by uanon
and wikipedia is a particularly trustworthy site? Believe what you like about the NED but it's pretty open knowledge that it is just another way the USA interferes in countries around the world, and I'm surprised to find people here don't know that https://countercurrents.org/2022/05/the-national-endowment-for-democracy-a-second-cia/
kano wrote
Reply to comment by Sid_Knee in News from Ukraine Bulletin 72 (13 November 2023): A Digest of News from Ukrainian sources [PDF] by uanon
That's a fake news website and the KHPG financs are open you can see they received $35000 from the NED in 2019 and that's one of the smaller grants it received.
and KHPG provide good information in English at least about Ukraine.
so don't try to spread pro russian disinformation on this forum please.
uanon OP wrote
Reply to comment by kano in News from Ukraine Bulletin 72 (13 November 2023): A Digest of News from Ukrainian sources [PDF] by uanon
changed it
kano wrote
Reply to comment by uanon in News from Ukraine Bulletin 72 (13 November 2023): A Digest of News from Ukrainian sources [PDF] by uanon
thinking that it means shadowy CIA manipulation of countless organisation is some certified brain rot.
get what you are saying, but I think is kind of ableist way of putting it. so would you please change it?
uanon OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by Sid_Knee in News from Ukraine Bulletin 72 (13 November 2023): A Digest of News from Ukrainian sources [PDF] by uanon
This doesn't look like a particularly trustworthy website lmao
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Policy_Research
(also recommends russian disinfo on its pages regarding Ukraine)
Even if NED funded this group (which it doesn't, according to their open funding list - they list plenty of current donors from various countries, there's no reason to hide anything), it's mosty just a bureaucratic grant giving org with a variety of receivers, thinking that it means shadowy CIA manipulation of countless organisation is some certified nonsense
Sid_Knee wrote
Reply to comment by uanon in News from Ukraine Bulletin 72 (13 November 2023): A Digest of News from Ukrainian sources [PDF] by uanon
USAID
uanon OP wrote (edited )
Reply to comment by yaspora in From Ukraine to Palestine - Occupation is a Crime by uanon
Well I also referred to settler attacks like the Huwara rampage as pogroms during my much more frequent talks with some russian pro-Israel liberals elsewhere (who're rather impenetrable to reason, I must say), I don't think there's anything contradictory in using this word in both cases, especially because Hamas, Hezbollah, PIJ&co are plausibly genocidal against Jewish presence in Palestine (and pogroms happened before the pivotal 1948 as well, e.g. in 1929 in Hebron). Similarly, Israel was founded through ethnic cleansing (a pretty universal thing for states, including existent and wannabe ones), so it's not a big leap towards being genocidal with a government right-wing enough. I don't think about this conflict in black-and-white terms (esp. given that the Palestinian movement and allied Arab states have always had antisemites and outright Nazis and Nazi collaborators in their ranks, sometimes opportunistically, sometimes ideologically, or a mix of both), and I don't think some Hamasnik oppressing Gazans and being a wannabe oppressor over the rest of Palestine is a good guy compared to some Holocaust survivors gunned down on a bus station in Sderot.
I wonder if you have something to say about Black people killed by Hamas on Oct 7 then, like Tanzanian Joshua Mollel. And other non-Israelis and non-Jews. Or Palestinian citizens of Israel. Or Bedouins. And so on.