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t_1635 wrote

On one hand, the requests are sometimes related to stopping actual crime (such as violent action and not their usual DCMA notices) but on the other hand I respect the site's right to sometimes not cooperate with police. Its a difficult problem.

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FusionTorpedo wrote

That's terrible - 8ch is one of the last bastions of free speech on the internet. But I guess they have to comply with the shit laws. All the more important to use VPN.

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

Bastion of white supremacy, peadophillia....

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FusionTorpedo wrote

There's no pedophillia there. White supremacy unfortunately yes, but only on /pol/ really.

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conseil wrote (edited )

White supremacy infests almost every board, and pretty blatantly usually.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

8chan, a spinoff of 4chan, was the central hub of 2014's controversial Gamergate movement. It also hosts a network of pedophiles and a number of forums that feature suggestive photos of children.

https://m.mic.com/articles/120528/how-voat-became-reddit-s-creepy-alternative

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FusionTorpedo wrote

And you just believe that? Weird how I haven't ever seen this alleged "pedophile network" there.

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

I mean, we're talking about the site that doxed me repeatedly for being an anarchist. Sure is good to know you're one of them. I feel very comfortable right now.

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FusionTorpedo wrote

That sucks that they doxed you but I'm not "one of" anyone. I just like posting there. And it has nothing to do with pedophilia anyway.

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ziq OP wrote

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/8chan-pedophiles-child-porn-gamergate/

How much more proof do you need?

Why do you like posting there anyway? What boards there specifically appeal to you?

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kensin wrote

You can pretty much discredit any site that tries to force a connection between gamergate and pedos. They obviously aren't interested in nuance or understanding and just want to paint things with a broad brush as "things that are evil because I don't like them". Places like *chan, and to a lesser degree reddit (including clones like this one) represent the internet and by extension all people. You'll find horrible people on the internet and good people. Every website that makes any attempt to allow free discussion will have it's dark corners because that's the world we live in. There's no point demonizing a website (8chan in this case) and assuming there's nothing of value there just because there are things in this world you wish didn't exist.

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t_1635 wrote

Its akin to saying raddle.me is a bastion of crime and racial prejudice because places like /f/whiteness and /f/piracy exist. Its based in fact but to just brand every member of the site as a racist criminal due to that is idiotic generalisation. (I've heard one of their top 10 boards was named /leftypol/ which just shows how diverse such that large site is)

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pearl wrote

I really hope Raddle's a bastion of crime! That'd be pretty cool.

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kensin wrote

Exactly what connection beyond "some members of both groups have used a website". I'm sure you agree that's not a valid connection. Lots of people unaffiliated with either group use that website too. Just like a ton of people use google or any other popular website. If you can back up your claim that those groups are connected please do.

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FusionTorpedo wrote

/tech/ and /v/ - I just avoid political boards. There's no better place to talk technology or video games anywhere. I've never seen any pedophilia there in years.

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VoidOutput wrote

There's no better place to talk technology or video games anywhere

Why

/tech/ and /v/ - I just avoid political boards. [...] I've never seen any pedophilia there in years.

If you only frequent two boards how would you know

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FusionTorpedo wrote

Why

I don't know. You tell me? Maybe censorship has something to do with it...

If you only frequent two boards how would you know

I know it's not on the boards I care about.

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VoidOutput wrote

I know it's not on the boards I care about.

So if a platform literally hosts pedophiles and/or white supremacists but you actively choose to ignore those parts it makes that platform great?

I don't know. You tell me? Maybe censorship has something to do with it...

I don't understand what would be censored if you discussed how the latest Mario was great or whatever. What could you possibly talk about that would warrant you being censored elsewhere?

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FusionTorpedo wrote

I don't understand what would be censored if you discussed how the latest Mario was great or whatever. What could you possibly talk about that would warrant you being censored elsewhere?

Try this for example: https://archive.is/sjxGg.

So if a platform literally hosts pedophiles and/or white supremacists but you actively choose to ignore those parts it makes that platform great?

Show me the pedophiles. And about white supremacists - that's the price you have to pay for lack of censorship. I am willing to pay that price - are you? Recall the poem "First they came..." ?

Is raddle any better than a white supremacist forum anyway? They're already calling for my ban, because I've criticized a hateful, racist, sexist quiz. Which they should be wholeheartedly supporting!

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VoidOutput wrote

Also how fucking rich to quote "First they came" on an anarchist forum filled with queer people and minorities.

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VoidOutput wrote

Try this for example

So instead of going to any other generalist gaming discussion website, one forum - allegedly, I'm not trusting one tweet from someone I don't even know - banning discussion about someone is reason enough to flee to one of Internet's most well known toxic and vitriolic websites? How does that follow?

that's the price you have to pay for lack of censorship. I am willing to pay that price - are you?

I'm not, which is why I've chosen Raddle.

Recall the poem "First they came..." ?

Yes, I think I do:

"First they came for the white supremacists.
And I said nothing, because I wasn't a white supremacist.
And the world was a better place.
The end"

Is raddle any better than a white supremacist forum anyway?

If you cannot tell the difference you are either a lame troll or you are not coming in a position of good faith anyway.

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FusionTorpedo wrote

banning discussion about someone is reason enough to flee to one of Internet's most well known toxic and vitriolic websites? How does that follow?

I've already experienced way more hate here today than in all my 8chan "career". And all because I've criticized a sexist, racist quiz.

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VoidOutput wrote

I've already experienced way more hate here today than in all my 8chan "career". And all because I've criticized a sexist, racist quiz.

Please directly quote anything that you'd qualify as hate, here on Raddle.

And then please tell me how anything that you've experienced here compares to what minorities would face here or more importantly in the real world.

Now please have the gall to repeat the words sexism and racism as if you know what they entail

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FusionTorpedo wrote

Please directly quote anything that you'd qualify as hate, here on Raddle.

Sure:

n_n wrote 20 minutes ago

Can someone ban this misogynist piece of shit already.

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VoidOutput wrote

Are you trying to make yourself look bad on purpose?

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ziq OP wrote

I think there really are 'leftists' from leftpol and leftypol that have been indoctrinated into the white-male-victim cult. It's pretty fascinating actually and I'm enjoying watching their victim complex go full throttle.

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n_n wrote

i'M sO oPpReSsEd. T____T

Go fuck your self fash.

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ziq OP wrote

If the users of 8chan don't hate you... you're probably doing something wrong as an anarchist, bruv.

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FusionTorpedo wrote

Sometimes they do when I post some leftist stuff. But you just get used to it. And since it's anonymous, I can be back the next day in another thread and no one will know it's the same person.

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n_n wrote

Do you think that jailbait is pedophilia?

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ziq OP wrote

How do you feel about democracy? You all for it?

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FusionTorpedo wrote

Direct democracy, as in "everyone involved gets a say" ? Sure. Today's fake democracy? Fuck that.

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ziq OP admin wrote

Awesome. I'm so glad you feel that way since the community has voted to ban you using the wonder of direct democracy. Be very glad that this site upholds your democracy and other freedoms.

It feels so good to wield the power of democracy on behalf of you wonderful people :)))

Banned by popular demand.

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n_n wrote

I think that was a Free Speech Warrior alt. XD

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ziq OP wrote

How do you remember all these people,, lol.

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n_n wrote (edited )

For some reason I have the ability to remember a lot of trivial things, and forget important ones. :D

Edit: a word

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Raven wrote

you walk like a fash and quack like a fash. gtfo

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bloodrose wrote

Is raddle any better than a white supremacist forum anyway? They're already calling for my ban, because I've criticized a hateful, racist, sexist quiz. Which they should be wholeheartedly supporting!

Wait, are you calling this racist and sexist? Like, seriously? With no irony at all?

Assuming you are a cisgendered male, you should have had only one "yes" on that quiz if you are absolutely perfectly not racist or sexist as you seem to think you are. I got 3 which are areas I know I need to work on. Because no one is perfect, yo.

Show me the pedophiles. And about white supremacists - that's the price you have to pay for lack of censorship. I am willing to pay that price - are you? Recall the poem "First they came..." ?

No, thanks. I love the lack of pedophiles and nazis here. Please don't use a poem about the holocaust to defend nazis. That's just disgusting.

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FusionTorpedo wrote

Wait, are you calling this racist and sexist? Like, seriously? With no irony at all?

Yes. You get a point for thinking we're all one race - the human race. And a point JUST being cisgender isn't anything to be proud of...

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n_n wrote

Can someone ban this misogynist piece of shit already.

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conseil wrote

And about white supremacists - that's the price you have to pay for lack of censorship. I am willing to pay that price - are you? Recall the poem "First they came..."

"First they came" was about the dangers of white supremacists, dipshit. You've taken literally the worst possible meaning from it.

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GaldraChevaliere wrote

How on midgard do you look at the old /v/ and think "this isn't bad enough already"? It's like moving out of a trash can and into a landfill.

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