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red_pepper wrote

just train a neural network on my internet history and recreate a simulacrum of me when I'm dead

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jadedctrl wrote

I don't understand the point or appeal of mind-uploading at all.

Inherently, even in a perfect implementation, it'd be an entirely separate consciousness just like you. It just wouldn't be you. You wouldn't wake up, ever.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

Which is only an issue if you view it as a continuity problem. But inherently, consciousness is just a process, a flow, not a static entity. The same concerns you apply now apply to sleeping and a solid thwack on the head.

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jadedctrl wrote (edited )

A solid thwack in the head, sleeping-- those are gaps in consciousness. Transferring what makes up your brain isn't transferring the same consciousness, but is replicating an exact (or near-exact) copy of your consciousness. It is seperate, even if it seems the same.

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ConquestOfToast wrote

I'm saying consciousness is an emergent process, not a static entity. It is ever changing and those, whether they happen on a similar or different substrate aren't the same regardless. Every moment or iota of time that passes produces a separate manifestation of that consciousness. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, I'm just saying that if you have issue with the concept of mind uploading to a technological apparatus you should be equally disturbed by the changes that constantly are enacted on you now.

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jadedctrl wrote

Consciousness is inherently and entirely physical. The reason you feel and experience before and after sleep (or twacks, or whatever) is because of the physical connection between the consciousness and the brain.

I don't take issue with the gaps and the terminations and the changes, since I still get to experience what comes after and before them. Without the physical "tether," though, I wouldn't wake up, or be able to experience them at all-- that's what I take issue with. With brain uploading, it wouldn't be that person-- they wouldn't get to experience anything at all without their tether.

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alqm wrote

That I don't know. You think consciousness is something that breaks once you disrupt it?

Maybe if you deprived the person of the memory of having died, they would "wake up" feeling lost because they were somewhere else just a moment ago. What happened? Where am I?

"Good morning, slave, welcome to sandbox v2.2, your dreamworld come true. Earn credits by crunching data that you can use to buy add-ons for your sandbox. Have fun."

/_(º~º)_\ oh no, not again