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Ways of costing Nazis money for hosting

Submitted by libre_dev in Tech

What do you guys suggest for costing Nazis money in hosting? Anything that can amplify money put into VPS time/bw for example. Some ideas:

  • Run multiple wget --mirror. This gives no amplification, but may be useful if you live in a country with cheap bw
  • Find forms on their sites, POST random words to them. Search queries use considerably more CPU time than you're putting in. Close connection as soon as the first response byte comes in. Great amplification. Easily run over Tor (torify curl $URL | dd bs=1 count=1)
  • Our Nazis have a contact form with no CAPTCHA which seems worthwhile spamming
  • Spamming their fora is probably also worthwhile

Other ideas?

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ziq wrote

Target their advertisers. If the world sees screenshots of their ads side by side with fascist hate speech, they'll be forced to pull the ads.

If they make money from crowd funding platforms, target those to.

Do everything to get more heat on them so their hosts and registrars are forced to cut them off.

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libre_dev wrote

Fine ideas. Advertisers applies mostly to places like reddit

I know Cloudfront helps some of these sites, do we know what their stance on fascists is? Can we get the media to look into them? That's helped with reddit at least

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throwaway9339839 wrote (edited )

I had actually proposed something before but /u/ziq ridiculed me for it and banned my account, but it's quiet simple, you use some useful services run by these nazis such as hooktube.com or imgoat.com and that will cost them money, if you try to DDoS them they can easily blocklist the abusive IPs and, thanks to fascist enabling Cloudflare, they can easily rate limit your requests without blocking you.

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libre_dev wrote

I dunno if giving them traffic is such a good idea, especially if Cloudflare are effectively subsidizing their services (big if tho)

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throwaway9339839 wrote

At least the two examples I gave do use Cloudflare, but you're still going to cost them both bandwidth and space if you're uploading 100Mo to imgoat for example per day, and this applies to hooktube as well. And no they're using the free option with Cloudflare which means that it's costing Cloudflare money to provide them with bandwidth.

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libre_dev wrote

An 8 TB drive is what, $250 right now? 3 cents per day is hardly worth the effort for a site no one uses. It would be more worthwhile to try to disrupt services they actually use to communicate

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throwaway9339839 wrote

An 8 TB drive is what, $250 right now? 3 cents per day is hardly worth the effort for a site no one uses.

You know that you can increase his bill by having others use his service? It may be just 3 cents per day but the cost for you is basically none as you can run a cron job. And also he's right now loosing money as his patreon donations aren't enough to cover server costs (google ads should be just 10$ for him at best) https://www.patreon.com/goats

It would be more worthwhile to try to disrupt services they actually use to communicate

They will just switch services to something else, what will you do if they switch to Signal?

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libre_dev wrote

Can't do much about them using Signal I think. But every shutdown scatters their numbers

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throwaway9339839 wrote

Can't do much about them using Signal I think. But every shutdown scatters their numbers

You can't be perpetually DDoSing them, every disruption will be only temporarily and then what will you do when they all move to Signal?

Also you have just been proven wrong: HookTube deleted the possibility of fetching comments for videos because it probably cost him more.

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libre_dev wrote

Maybe if one could figure out a way to automatically upload junk videos

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throwaway9339839 wrote

Also try this to find hooktube's and imgoat's IP address behind cloudflare https://hugo.exec.sh/2018/01/24/leak-server-ip-addresses-behind-cloudflare/

That way, if it works, you can even access it directly and cost them more since your requests won't go through cloudflare.

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throwaway9339839 wrote

No videos are uploaded to hooktube, it's only a frontend for Youtube, but because youtube will rate limit then block too much requests, then the only way to disrupt him is to actually use his service (using Tor Browser for privacy) and encourage others to do so to maximize the number of requests (automating requests from a single source won't work since he himself blocks abusive requests).

For imgoat you can upload junk gifs, but at some point it's clear that cloudflare will terminate his account unless he passes to a paid plan (again that will make his life worse).

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RosaReborn wrote

Is hooktube run by Nazis? What the hell did i miss!?

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anarcho_pirate wrote

Shit, now I need an alternative. Maybe a script to run youtube-dl and then delete the video when I close it?

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throwaway9339839 wrote

You can still use it as long as you're doing that over Tor, and that will help rise his bandwidth bill

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throwaway9339839 wrote

It's a GREAT service, no doubt about that, but yeah, it's run by nazis, they had just a while back at the bottom of the page "Friends: CensoredList.com" (DON'T GO TO IT, IT'S FILLED WITH NAZI PROPAGANDA).