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jadedctrl wrote (edited )

It's not about diverging from the UNIX kernel, it's about incompetence.
This is just amazing! No default fucking password! Jajaja!
I don't get the point of million-dollar-funded operating systems if things like this are actual problems.

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josefStallman wrote

I was just about to post this, what the fuck? How dumb do you have to be?

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DissidentRage OP wrote

I laughed my ass off when I heard about this. i'm fucking floored that nobody would check this. Shouldn't there be a unit test somewhere to make sure you can't just root blindly?

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zombie_berkman wrote

well they are apple users...

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josefStallman wrote

It's not Apple users, it's Apple developers. I'd expect something like this from Microsoft, but Apple's dev teams always struck me as good. Most of of the problems with macOS aren't technical, they're managerial. The kernel at least is normally very solid.

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DissidentRage OP wrote

In some ways yeah I'm sure they're good developers. But at the same time as a lowly PHP developer I've had issues where Apple decided "let's stick three different versions of PHP in the default installation of OS X and make it impossible to determine which one is actually running!" This is before trying to understand the mystery of why the fuck you would install a server-side web language in an OS.

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DissidentRage OP wrote

What the fuck? Does it also have phpMyAdmin installed to boot? That's so shitty.

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DissidentRage OP wrote

I used brew to install PHP 7 but ran into a problem where it would only handle PHP 5. I looked for where it was installed and found three different locations (these weren't aliases). I spent two hours playing whack-a-mole trying to figure out which one was being run before I gave up trying to develop in OS X.

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zorblax wrote

to be fair the Windows kernel is also very good but there's just so much shit heaped on it in userspace that you don't get to see it normally.

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josefStallman wrote

Just the way Windows handles killing processes is enough to make me say it's shitty.

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Naokotani wrote

Proprietary software is just a dumb idea now. Its really that simple.

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Naokotani wrote

I think that it is important to also keep in mind that this is the most profitable company in the entire world. I should hope there dev team is decent.

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23i wrote

thank god I haven't updated in ages?

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MrPotatoeHead wrote (edited )

Do Mac users know what "root" means, when it's not part of a plant?

It's a joke people. Most computer users don't know what root means, in computing.

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

Not really. People do know what it means as soon as the equivalent Windows Administrator account is mentioned.

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