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tuesday wrote

love the random and pointless fat insult thrown in there. 🙄

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote (edited )

Let me explain -- at the behest of a Wikipedia critic who lives in Northern California, I went down to the 2016 Wikiconference in the San Diego Public Library under an assumed name. Unfortunately the name I assumed was not happy about this and narked me out to the Wiki people. James Alexander was their chief of security, he tried to keep me from going into the library (which they were using a small amount of), to keep me from taking pictures of the attendees (which was the whole reason I was there). I was banned from Wikipedia by Alexander in a letter (I still have it) and put on their global ban list -- EVEN THOUGH I WAS NOT A WIKIPEDIAN. He had four assistants in this attempt to keep me out of a conference we had paid for in a public space where I was only there to take photos, maybe talk to some people like a journalist, and leave. It was utterly insane that they acted like this.

Now I had to use a cover name because I had been doxxed on a Wikipedia criticism forum(1) frequented by WikiMedia Foundation employees, and the guy in N. California could not attend because his name and face is known to them and they would have banned him from the event; the WMF did the same thing to Greg Kohs at a prior conference -- took his money, rejected him at the door, refunded him. It's like dealing with a private college that dislikes you -- they hustle you off the property, keep you from talking to their staff, have your photo on file (they have mine now). Alexander has since left the WMF, and I make no jokes about him now on the Wikipedia Sucks message board. The WMF still ban people like crazy.....because it's a cult.

  1. I had been a member of their group. I had joined to talk about abuses on Reddit (they weren't wild about that until I pointed out that certain key Wikipedia people were on Reddit now) and the drama about my use of their open off-topics forum built in this hidden back room for moderators on the forum, so I was kicked out and the chickenshit sysop leaked my info (email, real name) to the board's chief dickweasel who posted it. Ex-Wikipedians are like a cult outside the cult, very reminiscent of the groups former Scientologists run to keep doing "the tech" - FreeZone, iScientology, etc. No creativity like the ex-Scios who set up The Process Church of the Final Judgement, Eckankar, The Church of Man, etc.
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tuesday wrote

that's a lot of words that you typed out, none of which explain why you felt fatphobia was fine.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

I would love for you to have to deal with Jimmy Wales' employees and try to keep calm afterwards or not be willing to mock these self-important pseudo-academics. I am not "phobic" about his weight, it's a cheap running gag because what he looks like is the only thing that sticks out about him. Otherwise he's a droid who banned 15 people before running off to work for Twitter. Silicon Valley is packed to the brim with people like him.

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tuesday wrote

ok idk if you realize this but it's making a gag out of his weight that's the problem. I don't care if he's the actual devil. making fun of someone for their weight is fatphobic. it's a shitty joke against someone you like just as much as it's about shitty joke about someone you don't like. your opinion of the person is irrelevant. your thinking that a person's body size can be leveraged as a joke meant to demean that is at issue.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

This is the line you are so wound up over: "James Alexander quit the WikiMedia Foundation, so I can't make fat computer nerd jokes about him anymore." This is what Alexander looked like at the 2016 conference: http://wikipedia-sucks-badly.blogspot.com/2016/10/pictures-from-wikiconference-san-diego.html . Your position is "oh this poor guy" when in reality, by being their "Trust and Safety" officer, he was their Wikipedia cop (and most organizations hire an ex-police detective or ex-police officer for that position.) His job was to bury any problems, which is why he banned 15 people. This didn't stop Andrew W. Morrow (banned user "Amorrow") from stalking certain female Apple employees (Morrow has been in-and-out of mental institutions in the greater San Francisco area for decades) during his tenure. You are looking at leaves, missing that they are attached to trees, in a forest, in the middle of a massive fire.

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tuesday wrote

Your position is "oh this poor guy"

oh really?

making fun of someone for their weight is fatphobic. it's a shitty joke against someone you like just as much as it's about shitty joke about someone you don't like. your opinion of the person is irrelevant. your thinking that a person's body size can be leveraged as a joke meant to demean that is at issue.

tell me where the fuck I said anything even remotely expressing that I feel sorry or bad for him.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

Don't you though? Isn't that what this is all about, besides the ToS violation that I didn't know I was doing? You think I'm bullying the guy when a) I haven't seen him in six-or-so years, b) he left Wikipedia's WMF for a better job elsewhere, c) I haven't heard a peep from him since. Hell, before I wrote that line I hadn't thought about Alexander in years, because he hasn't been part of the Wikipedia crowd for a long while. That's why it's a throwaway line.

(Of the people with any power at that 2016 conference, both James Alexander (their event security chief) and Kirill Lokshin (the head of the conference) have since dropped out of Wikipedia entirely.)

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tuesday wrote

I'm tired of repeating myself.

Go fuck yourself.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

Real charming response.

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tuesday wrote

maybe if you actually read and processed what I was saying rather than trying to gas light me and mansplain what my point was I'd have been more willing to engage more. but you didn't so... go fuck yourself.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

According to a friend of mine who does IT research very well, the chances are high that you are a sockpuppet of another user. Good day.

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tuesday wrote (edited )

um your friend is really bad at that then because I'm verifiably not a sock puppet.

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tuesday wrote

People are overweight because of health issues.

could have left this part, why a person is fat isn't relevant but otherwise ❤

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

He's not "inferior", he was part of the machine, a paid Wikipedian. Also, he bugged out of Wikipedia-land years ago, for all I know he lost every pound the minute he left Wikipedia's insane corporate culture. All I know is what I saw in 2016, and how he acted then; he was so colorless that sticking to how he looked was the only definition I could give him, he was that much of a non-entity.

As just told the other account, you are missing the blazing forest fire for the leaves that you are looking at.

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Heywood_Floyd OP wrote

Your very own post proves that somebody cares. BTW, when I joined two-plus years ago, I was never made to read a ToS, and I only found the document today.

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kin wrote

Leave the endeavour to the AIs

We will live a distópic future where the Desert™ will be a no-go zone/ salvage reservation full of misfits and rejects and the City will be filled with human drones and AIs

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kin wrote

Well, maybe you should pardon me as I am through the Wolf Hour:

The time between midnight and dawn when most people die, when sleep is deepest, when nightmares are most palatable

My father told me about it. It's the time between 3:00 and 4:00 in the morning. You can't sleep, and all you can see is the troubles and the problems and the ways that your life should've gone but didn't. All you can hear is the sound of your own heart.

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