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quandyalaterreux wrote (edited )

No, Opera explicitly state that they log EVERYTHING through their VPN: https://www.opera.com/privacy

Use the Tor Browser instead: https://www.torproject.org

And Firefox for browsing that requires personally verifiable information (shopping, banking, ...).

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WTB_Nukes_130e wrote

Cool ^^ nice to hear about so many alternatives. Originally I only knew of Firefox, Chrome, IE, and Opera and Firefox kept crashing for me, but now I know of a lot more. I'll try this Tor one out.

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NEOalquimista wrote

You have to understand that Tor is unlike any other browser, and it will only provide anonymity as long as you understand the warnings posted here. It is slower than a VPN, although it eliminates the common problem of trust. Tor has no authority in control. Tor is decentralized. VPNs have a central server that can be accessible by VPN providers and handed out to government entities because the data is directly associated to you.

But again, Tor is slower than VPNs because it transfers your data through 3 different computers before actually arriving at the destination, and also because it doesn't have that many relays (that is, "servers" worldwide). I use it at home, but since you have little experience with the world of free software, I suggest you use Firefox, preferably in a Linux distro that's easy and friendly to beginners.

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ziq wrote

Firefox or bust.

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WTB_Nukes_130e wrote

I tried Firefox and it crashed in like 20 minutes.

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DeathToAmerica wrote

your problem is windows, not firefox. wipe it and install linux.

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WTB_Nukes_130e wrote

I do a lot of streaming and gaming, isn't Linux bad for that?

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NEOalquimista wrote

I had to change my gaming after I moved to GNU/Linux. You should definitely try Wine first, but in any case the best long-term solution is to adapt to what is native to the system. The problem is that all your life you have been paying for the big famous games to grow, and so they did. They don't care about anything other than Windows and Apple computers and won't release the best games for GNU/Linux.

The best thing to do is help the small free software games to grow by playing and streaming them. It attracts more people, which equals more development and more games being released for GNU/Linux. It won't happen overnight. Remember that open source software is developed in people's free time. Most developers of components that make GNU/Linux what it is are not paid for it. I really recommend that you read more about the open source/free software realm, because you grew some misconceptions there.

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Copenhagen_Bram wrote (edited )

Probably not.

If you use something like Unity or Silverlight for streaming, you may be out of luck since Pipelight was discontinued. But otherwise, you should be fine, even if you have to run nonfree Javascript.

Most games and other programs that weren't built for Linux will run under Wine.

Also, there's tons of free games you can stream!

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josefStallman wrote

Opera is proprietary software and using any browser with a built-in VPN is not safe. Use Firefox or a derivative if you care about privacy.

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SleeperCylon wrote

but you can easily disable the VPN. Opera also has a built-in ad-blocker which works great and also sets it apart from the other browsers in that regard.

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WTB_Nukes_130e wrote

Opera actually has a better safety score than Chrome according to the web based community Web of Trust
Opera Rating
Google Chrome Rating
Firefox is a option but I've tried it and it crashed like every 20 minutes. Opera is faster than Firefox and faster than Chrome. Using a VPN is safe and I don't know why you would mislead people like that, I've been using proxisy networks since I was a teenager and never had a problem.
As for proprietary software, I don't think you understand that definition. Properietary software is software that was developed and owned by an individual or company so you even contradicted yourself in your short post by recommending Firefox which is also a proprietary software.

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josefStallman wrote (edited )

Using a VPN is more secure than browsing without one because it hides your personal information behind a proxy server. However, this does nothing to stop the proxy server from harvesting your information. Hosting a large-scale VPN requires quite a bit of money, so if you're not paying for it, chances are that VPN is making it's money from selling your data.

Proprietary Software is software that does not respect it's users freedom, privacy, and community. Firefox is not proprietary software because it is licensed under the Mozilla Public Licence, which allows for study, modification, and distribution of the program, making it Free (as in freedom) software. You can learn more about that here and on /f/freeasinfreedom.

(Also web of trust is, ironically, not trustworthy. Check out the wikipedia page. It's full of privacy violations and lawsuits).

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WTB_Nukes_130e wrote

Thanks for spelling it out for me. ^^ I like Firefox but I don't know why it crashes for me. I could try it again, maybe they fixed it in an update.

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josefStallman wrote

What OS are you running?

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WTB_Nukes_130e wrote

Windows 7

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emma wrote (edited )

BORN TO DIE

WORLD IS A FUCK

鬼神 Kill Em All 1989

I am trash man

410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS

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NEOalquimista wrote

Not only Firefox, I've been having problems with Gimp and Inkscape on Windows at work. I wouldn't be surprised if this was due to companies like Microsoft sabotaging free software when running under their OS. I really hate my workplace computer, can't change it.

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josefStallman wrote

Yeah I can't help you there mate I have no idea how to troubleshoot windows without powershell.

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Naokotani wrote

I have used firefox on windows, and linux including different flavours of ubuntu and arch linux and, while I have had it crash, it is rare at best.

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Copenhagen_Bram wrote

They're all proprietary. Just use Icecat or Iceweasel.

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WTB_Nukes_130e wrote

lol i had no idea how many different web browsers there were! thanks

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Copenhagen_Bram wrote

I smell sarcasm, but you're welcome. You seem to know a lot about Opera, and the proprietaryness of Firefox. The people at /r/iamverysmart might like you.

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emma wrote (edited )

BORN TO DIE

WORLD IS A FUCK

鬼神 Kill Em All 1989

I am trash man

410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS

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WTB_Nukes_130e wrote

Chrome collects your data and asks for permission to use your webcam and record your key strokes. It collects all the information, what sites you search and visit and record it to your IP address. Then Google works with the NSA, and gives these records over to the NSA where they have bots scan through all your records.
Opera uses a VPN so information isn't stored to a IP adress and Opera doesn't collect your information or ask to. Firefox is also an option but from my experience Firefox crashes all the time and is really annoying to use. Opera is light-weight and runs easily as fast as Chrome.

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josefStallman wrote

You're right. Google chrome is a privacy nightmare. But Opera addresses basically none of the concerns you should have about Chrome.

Opera's Privacy Policy says that it collects information:

  • When you provide it explicitly to us; for example, when you submit a form on our websites

  • When you install and run our products, use our services, or visit our websites

  • When third parties share information with us

The information it collects can include:

personal data, for example your name, email, IP-address, location; and non-personal technical data, for example who manufactured your device, your screen's resolution, your mobile operator's region and code.

Opera explicitly states that it will provide user data to government agencies if requested.

We may share your data to government bodies and law enforcement agencies to comply with the law, for example in judicial proceedings, by court order or other legal process.

The fact that a Opera uses it's own VPN makes sure that sites you visit can't see your real IP but actually allows Opera to have even more access to your data. Normally, a web browser only sees the sites you visit, not their actual content. Because Opera has it's own VPN, all traffic actually passes directly through their servers. Any unencrypted traffic can be read by anyone with access to the server.

The ultimate truth is that you can't trust any program that you can't see the source code of, because it can be doing anything and you'd never know. This is why we recommend Firefox and it's derivatives, which are free and open source software. You can actually disable tracking and data collection and be confident that it's actually doing what you want.

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SleeperCylon wrote

I try to stay as far away from Chrome (and Google products in general) as much as possible. I primarily use Firefox, but Opera is a good browser that I use occasionally when coding. To be honest, Firefox is a bit slow at the moment but it's getting faster and better for every new update.

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AbbraKaDabbra wrote

Chromium, Epic, Tor, Pirator, Pale Moon, Ice Dragon and For you nasty little hackers (Hydra). Don't settle for 1 get a few and specialize them depending on what you want it for. Pick your game up or fall behind. If you want to know who has the experience follow the pirate community and anonymous, and keep your eyes on the kekistanies they are battle tested. Just a heads up.