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southerntofu OP wrote

Element is a web application, so a server getting compromised will not only compromise all your metadata, but can also compromise your e2e-encrypted content retroactively (by compromising your private keys). Matrix as a protocol does not have this problem, but all web-clients (of all protocols) share this property.

Session i haven't tried, but it's really weird how their entire website doesn't talk about their cryptocurrency. You have to follow links around for that. Doesn't look very legit?

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celebratedrecluse wrote

i agree, the following are just my thoughts

XMPP w/ OTR and with network traffic routed through Tor is better than element for individual conversations that need to be extra anonymous while still being encrypted. It is relatively straightforward for power users to set up burner XMPP profiles.

Element has more functionality for larger groups and casual conversations. However, since it is a web application, it comes with security and privacy problems, because you need to self-host and take on the responsibility of being a server administrator to really secure the platform.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

At the root, if it requires $600+ to buy a phone which even pretends to respect your privacy, then only rich people

some sort of scaling of capacity to reduce the cost of getting devices with unlocked bootloaders, would be great. failing that, we'll just have to rely on the gaps in coverage of the police state, and assume the surveillance game is pretty much lost from the get for any group over 6 people.

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Hibiscus_Syrup wrote (edited )

Thanks. Unfortunately I would be all alone if I was using those programs in my context.

Never heard of Session, I'll guess it's not as popular as Signal because of the instability then.

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