Viewing a single comment thread. View all comments

catachresis wrote

I used to believe in determinism, but the only discernible difference is how we choose to believe it. Free-will gives us the power to change and that is important.

4

noble_pleb OP wrote

That power doesn't imply a free will at all if you were already destined to change certain things in the universe at a certain time. What if the change didn't occur by your own spontaneous or deliberate "choice" but because of the complex web of cause-effect continuum in the cosmos just as it was meant to be?

2

ruin wrote

because of the complex web of cause-effect continuum in the cosmos just as it was meant to be?

To state this as fact rather than an idea is my issue with this argument.

Humans are obsessed with causal relationships because they’re comprehensible on the scale that we experience our world. Correlation is often, if not always, more accurate description for observable phenomena on any scale regardless of the technology used to observe it.

To speak of the objective functions of nature as hard fact, even more so the cosmos, is taking science into religious territory. While this is no doubt very prevalent thinking, it reeks of anthropocentric hubris.

6

[deleted] wrote (edited )

2

ruin wrote

Haha! I should’ve said in my humbly subjective meagerly informed opinion.

3