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jaidedctrl wrote

Yea, you're right. I think they meant more right after the proles abolish the bourgie state and put their own into place. Technically not the end of revolution, but it's the start of the end, for sure.

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

I find that so odd. Similarly, I think the bourgie state still exists so long as there are bourgies. Their existence means the structure remains, it's just in competition with another state (assuming we're going state socialist here, which I don't understand either).

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jaidedctrl wrote

Their existence means the structure remains

Do you mean their existence, period? Even if they live as proles in wealth and conditions? Or do you mean their existence in the economic hierarchy? If the latter, yea, I totally agree.

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Both are the same thing. If you are bourgie, you can give up your privileges or die, either way you will cease to exist as bourgie.

After all the bourgies are gone, after decolonisation and all the structural inequality is gone and there are habits in place to keep them gone, after all norms are defined by the material context and not the other way around. Then it is after the revolution.

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