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he4vyL1ft3r wrote

I only do that tactics when the tags are completely flat and thin, like those easy to rip off. The thing about other plastic tags is that if they are big, they might get noticed when I handle back the clothes to the staff, or even if its only noticed later, if the employee are motivated they will report and lp might rewind camera and see that I picked more items in the store than I entered the fitting room with.

I always prefer to hide it inside the fitting room somewhere I'm sure it won't be checked for days, or weeks, or even months. Sometimes tags can be fixed behind the mirror and will only be noticed when the store decides to change the mirror, etc.

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db_cooper wrote

A lot of people just keep the hard tags in their pocket, leave the fitting rooms, and then with a little slight of hand they'll either drop em into some random pockets, or simply attach them back on other items, you can choose to double-tag clothes they already tag normally which is a common mistake made on the floor so it doesn't look too odd, or you can randomly tag stuff that they don't normally tag. Both methods work about the same, it's just your personal preference. This convenience is one of the big reasons people bother to carry detachers. That is a fair answer though, sounds like you have a good system for clothes which you have definitely planned out effectively enough. I like the behind the mirror idea for sure. Maybe try using Gorilla Mounting Tape? That might help with the larger tags especially. It would hold them more securely, require less tape, and be faster/easier to get enough tape firmly onto the tag imo. Small inconvenience of having to remove the protective film from the top side of the tape, but I find it to be really easy with that particular double-sided tape.

TBH if you are really hitting clothes that hard, you honestly should consider carrying a proper magnet, or at least a hook for sensormatics. I think you are worrying too much about "motivated" employees, nobody is going to wind back a tape over a loose hard tag being found in a pocket. That simply isn't going to happen. Plus you aren't on camera concealing, and they didn't physically stop and search you to confirm the merch was on you. In many states, they would be hard pressed to build much of a case from just the footage of you selecting merch and the alleged concealment/miscounting at the fitting room. What if they counted 5 items, this stores limit, but you simply had 6. None of that is any real evidence of crime. If the LP is watching you that hard, they definitely have a better chance than you seem to think of finding the hard tags in the fitting room. They won't find a tiny AM soft tag behind the mirror, but a couple hard tags taped under the seat? Depending on what exactly that seat looks like and how it is mounted, it might be trivial to find those. This also is going to depend where you go. If it's Saks 5th Ave or Neiman-Marcus, that is the kind of place you want to consider detagging like a pro, because the security is very likely to be good. All of this of course depends so heavily on your location and the stores you are targeting, and there is always random factors beyond our control, no matter how much planning and tradecraft you have.