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Lowes: Similar to Home Depot, but with less LP. Cameras are usually monitored, especially over the board cutting and cord cutting areas. This is to protect them from lawsuits if someone injures themselves.

Lush: Lush is usually busy which can be either a help or a hindrance to lifters. There are no tags or door alarms, and the front desk is often far ways from the door. There is usually one or two chasers and at least one employee giving demonstrations on the sales floor. I'm not sure about the camera situation, but I know if caught they will ban you, but won't usually even try to get the products back because the bath bombs and such probably can't be resold after having left the store. (information requested by /u/slkondak)

Macy's: Quite hard. Often has large teams of LP in store ranging in size from two to as many as ten. Company policy demands that LP follow the 5 steps to make an apprehension. Cameras are fairly good, and are always being monitored. Head LP managers have access to store cameras even off duty, and will call police if alarms are triggered after closing time. Always chases (incentives are given to employees), and sometimes they prosecute, and sometimes they issue civil demands - no policy determines which they do.

Martin's (closing): Not to hard. They have considerably less LP and general anti theft measures that Kroger. Cameras are almost always actively monitored because Martin's has large management teams at every store.

Meijers: Will chase. Usually they won't employ dedicated LP, but they will have someone monitoring cameras most of the time.

Mervyns: Dangerous store that will chase, ban, and prosecute. Cameras are always monitored.

Michael's: Beginner level store. At more urban stores, expensive art pencils and markers are locked up, but many stores don't bother. Spray paint is always locked up. Cameras aren't monitored unless to investigate ORC. Employees are located at the framing counter which is near the main offices, so keep that in mind. Blind spots are numerous. Easy as pie.

Michael Kor's: Probably the easiest designer boutique. Staff is very dedicated, and treats customers well. If they think you may be lifting, they won't hesitate to call police and or mall security and stall you until they arrive. Not many bags are usually on display, so theft is noticed extremely quickly. If you must lift from there (they do have BEAUTIFUL bags and wallets) get in and get out.

Nike: Usually strict about theft. Cameras are few, but store managers sometimes monitor them. Tagging is frequent. They might chase, but will try to get a license plate number and will always call police.

Nordstrom: Dangerous, but not impossible. They have dedicated LP, and regular staff get bonuses for reporting shoplifters. They will chase you usually, but will usually have police waiting. Nordstrom case builds for shoplifting, so don't return to the same store planning to lift. Cameras are numerous and are actively monitored. Glass cases containing designer wallets and things are usually able to be opened and only appear locked. Staff won't confront you for opening the case (according to my cousin who has worked there for 9 months). Be careful.

Office Depot/Max: Very very easy. A personal favorite of mine. They almost never monitor cameras. Employees there are worked to death and really don't care. If a door alarm sounds, keep walking. They can't confront you just based on a door alarm beeping. No LP, and management only cares about internal theft. The cleaning supplies aisle is usually the best blindspot. Some items are spider wrapped. Many things have an RFID tag in them such as headphones, and fine writing pens. These tags are always stuck to the inside of the box. It's easy to tell, because the box will have been resealed with scotch tape. Side note: Office Max vastly overprices post-it notes, so please steal those <3

Old Navy: Easiest of all the GAP Inc. Stores. Staff usually doesn't care, and most are not on the sales floor. Dressing rooms are usually messy which makes it easy to conceal. Stealing shoes from Old Navy is easier because there are no shoe boxes. LP exists regionally in urban areas. Cameras are usually actively monitored. Will generally chase, ban, and call police.

Pet-Co: Cameras are usually only located near the front of the store. No LP, and cameras aren't actively monitored. Management only cares about preventing internal theft because pet stores generally have low shrinkage. Employees won't chase, and many won't even call police.

PetSmart: Generally the same as Pet-Co. PetSmart holds a lot of dog training classes, so these are good times to lift. Cameras are sometimes reviewed at the end of the day (per company policy) but this rarely happens, especially in small stores.

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Rite Aid: "Little to no lp unless it becomes a major problem such as repeated lifts of alcohol or electronics. Most cameras are fake. Not actively monitored. Poorly trained staff amd managers. Store​ policy is not to stop suspected lifters but it varies store to store. My moms old manager was a hard ass and tacked more than one person with no repercussions. He has since retired and her new manager has a no confrontation policy. They will however build a case. They got one lady who had been stealing wine bottles for 3 months. They call police and will take further legal action. Multiple blind spots even if cameras are active.if you spot the manager out of the office99% of the time that means nobody is watching cameras. And even if the manager is in the office they are usually overworked and underpayed so its no issue usually." (courtesy of /u/Punsarefordumbasss)

Ross: Medium difficulty. They have limited LP, but cameras are usually monitored by one employee with radio contact to the managers. They will often simply ban shoplifters, and won't call police if they get their merchandise back.

Safeway: Can be one of the more difficult grocery stores. Cameras are of decent quality, and are usually being watched. If electricity to the store is cut, the cameras will continue to record using a separate backup generator. LP is regional and rotates around stores with high shrinkage. Most stores in wealthier areas can go several months without a visit from district LP.

Sam's Club: Same as Costco, but a little easier. They can be fairly easy to lift from if you conceal well and move fast. If you're not obviously carrying anything, the receipt checker will let you pass.

Sears: Sears has cut back on LP, but still has LP agents in almost every store. LP that is there is highly trained. Sears will sometimes "bait" people into lifting. Some stores don;t have tower alarms. Cameras are always monitored. Sears will chase, and usually prosecute, but might issue a Civil Demand if you cooperate with their LP.

Sephora: Dangerous. Has very good LP and PTZ cameras. They will always have at least 2 or 3 agents in the store, not including plainclothes. They will chase, call police, and issue civil demands. If employees or customers are hurt, threatened, or if excessive amounts are stolen, they will prosecute. Civil Demand notices come with 1-2 year trespass orders (this applies to all Sephora's except those in JCP or Macy's).

Sheetz: One of the easier convenience stores to lift from. Cameras exist, but are generally not being monitored, except in the aftermath of large thefts or robberies. There are always at least two or three employees behind the counter. Most stocking is done late at night or after closing, so employees usually stay behind the counter unless they're cleaning a machine. They won't call police unless there's a robbery. If an employee sees you shoplifting, oftentimes they tell you just to never come back. Quite easy.

Spencer's: Difficulty varies. Most stores have decent low hanging cameras, but they aren't usually being watched. They use a lot of ink tags on clothing items. Spencer's keeps most expensive items such as sex toys in the back of the store, or on high shelves where you need to get employee assistance to reach. When lifting at Spencer's, have an idea of what you want, and get in and out in under 10 minutes.

Staples: Very easy. Older stores have very wide aisles, and mostly fake cameras. Newer stores have shorter, narrower aisles and have real cameras. There are almost never any employees looking at cameras, and there are no real LP efforts to speak of. Employees will congregate near the main door if they see someone concealing, and they might follow at a distance. If you see two or more employees standing directly at the door, DUMP THE GOODS, and leave.

Stop & Shop: Surprisingly a difficult store. They use decent LP, and lots of decent quality cameras that are constantly monitored. They will almost always prosecute and rarely issue Civil Demand notices. Chase policy depends on the store, but they usually will chase or apprehend past the POS.

Sunglass Hut: No LP, and cameras aren't actively monitored in mall stores. Glasses are almost all tagged, and employees are told not to leave customers alone in the store with merchandise. Regional managers will often investigate ORC and noticeable shrinkage reported in inventory.

Target: Notoriously hard. Cameras are extremely numerous and are very high quality. Some can PTZ. LP are extremely dedicated, and regular staff are given bonuses or incentives for reporting shoplifting to LP. Target will always chase, call police, ban, or rarely issue a Civil Demand notice. Don't lift from Target. They will basically take what you stole and shove it up your ass. Also, Target case builds and shares known lifter info with other stores, so they can get you up to a felony amount before contacting police.

Things Remembered: Laughably easy. Most stores lack security cameras and those with them are never monitored. The large engraving station is in the back, so if your location has cameras, assume someone is near them. Staff don't usually care and will stay at the desk. No LP at all. Mostly the company cares about preventing ORC. Concealing is easy as long as you're in a blind spot from the cashier desk. Their items are expensive and are never tagged. Have fun.

Toys R Us: Store management may act as LP, and cameras are sometimes actively monitored. Company policy is to not detain parents who are with children under 8. (Regardless of if the child or parent is the lifter). They will usually call police, and may prosecute if they can't get their stuff back. No specific LP personnel.

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Tuesday Morning: Doesn't chase, will prosecute, and will ban. Always calls police. There are no dedicated LP, but the company likes to hire former LP from other stores as managers in their stores.

Ulta: Difficulty varies. Stores in malls are usually harder because they often request their storefront to be near the mall security office. Freestanding stores are easier, but staff with call police, and usually issue a Civil Demand but sometimes prosecute. Cameras are PTZ and are almost always monitored. Many items are tagged.

Vans: Staff are usually pretty dedicated, and will offer aggressive customer service to suspected lifters. Vans usually calls mall security, and lets them determine whether or not to call police. Cameras are usually in most stores, but are monitored after a theft is noticed.

Virginia Diner Shoppe: Like taking candy from a baby. Large shelves and fairly expensive products make this a nice place to snatch some gifts for the ladies in your life.

Walmart: Poor LP, whose budget and resources have been slashed in recent years. LP efficiency can range from store to store, but it is often easier to lift from Walmarts in higher income areas. Walmart will almost always chase, and will often prosecute. Company policy is not to prosecute under $25, but this is usually left up to the store or district manager. Staff sometimes, but rarely act as LP. Cameras are always actively monitored, but camera quality isn't the best, and a cone blindspot exists directly under most cameras because they can't tilt.

Walgreens: Won't chase, but will prosecute. No employees are dedicated solely to LP/AP, but store managers can act as LP at their own discretion. Employees are encouraged to try to get plate numbers by looking through windows. Police can be called after the fact. Cameras aren't usually monitored, but the employee break area is near the cameras, and the manager can access the camera feed through his computer (at newer locations).

Wawa: These stores have some exits away from the cashiers desk, which makes them easier to steal from. Cameras are sometimes monitored, but when the store is busy, they usually aren't being watched. Cashiers may yell to lifters who have left the store, and will sometimes try for a license plate number. Oftentimes they will leave cartons of cigarettes out on top of the checkout desks. Good place to try to lift smokes, for those of you who use tobacco!

Wegman's: Easiest grocery store. Despite being a MASSIVE store, cameras are few. Many employees work in the store, but are often too busy to even help regular customers. Someone is always watching the cameras, but the only LP that is always used is managers doing sweeps of the store, or near suspected lifters. Exiting through the market cafe is best, but watch out for employees coming in and out of the catering office. Wegman's won't chase (usually), but may call police, and will ban. Wegman's does a lot of charity work, and if caught, you can sometimes get away by apologizing profusely, and saying you're hungry and are having trouble feeding your family. They almost always will give you a few small food items and some coupons and let you leave.

Zumiez: Typically doesn't have cameras, and they are never being monitored. There is usually an employee near the skate stuff near the back room, so pay attention to where they are and where they go. Sales counters are usually far from the door, so you will have extra time to get away if someone notices you. Most hats are tagged, and certain stores will tag shirts, pants, or Herschel bags. Staff won't chase, and are slow in calling mall security. No LP, except regional managers who will pop in occasionally, or whom are called in. Staff are generally friendly, but are too busy texting and kicking around, so they won't do much if they suspect you of lifting. They're supposed to wait until you've left the store, and then they will send your description to security.

7-Eleven: Small stores, usually with a few employees. Cameras aren't being monitored, but the highest ranking employee in the store has access to them. If you're sealing alcohol they will usually phone the police. They may try to get your license plate number, but they generally won't do much unless you're causing a disturbance.

--Thanks for reading!! If I left out any stores or if any of this information is incorrect, please don't hesitate to comment here or PM me.

--I'm hoping the mods can use some of this information or maybe the whole most and add it as a pinned post.

EDIT: Please note that individual stores are different. There are many differences between mall stores and freestanding stores. Company policy can be broken, and many times it is. LP's job is to prevent theft, and they are usually very adamant at doing so.

EDIT 2: Perhaps we could create a large, separate post all about types of tags and which tags are used at which stores? Knowledge of tags is not my forte.

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jdane2786 wrote (edited )

Dude I have to say that you are spot-on with most of your assessments. I think this is a awesome thread, and very informative. I wish I would have been able to read this years ago. I would have been able to avoid a lot of bumps and bruises along the way. The only place that I disagree with is Kroger's. I personally think it's much easier than a lot of places out there. I've never had any problems at Kroger's. One place I noticed that you forgot to put on there would be Belk. Belk has above-average security and has LP that actively monitor cameras all the time. They also have no problem chasing and getting physical with a shoplifter. I learned that from a very shity experience. But like I said other than those two you're pretty much spot-on. Especially target they are a motherfuker for sure and I've had many bad experiences there, to the point to where I wont fuck with them anymore. Thanks again and I'll be looking for any new updates regularly.

Also im super knowledgeable about security tags, spiderwire, and alpha box's. I know many tricks on how to beat and get around them. Let me know if you would like me to tell you how to get around them.

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maria wrote (edited )

Can u please share what u know about target. Can they be case building me. I got arrested like a month ago trying to take 2 Dyson. They called the cops.cops gave me a DAT each Dyson was about $450 so in total of $900. Some Dyson fans. Then like a week ago I got caught taking notebooks paint and other stuff with the total of $200 I was with my niece so they said I was lucky they didn’t call the cops. They took a photo of my I’d and myself. Yesterday I received a demand letter saying that I have to pay $150 that I had 21 days. They also took a picture of some plates that are no good. Target was so easy to me. I felt like I made mistakes like talking to much to the employees. And then the day of the Dyson I wasn’t paying attention like I should have

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NotACop wrote

I would love any tricks you have for mid level electronics security like Walmart or best buy. What is an alpha box?

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chade wrote

it’s easy to hit walmart just be aware of your surroundings and look for blind spots lp is surroundings trash for how big of a name walmart is

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Laylaross7722 wrote (edited )

What’s the cameras like at Shoprite because I stole something only $5, and I have to go back soon and I want to know if there’s a chance of me getting caught after I stole the item? I’m also a frequent shopper there, but this is the first time I’ve stolen something from there.

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FiveFinger_Freddy wrote (edited )

I want to learn I often say Fuck it and cruise out. a large majority of the time no alarms go off. By the way I'm referring to like pharmacies and stuff

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sudo OP wrote

Thanks, I actually didn't write this list but I appreciate your information on Belk. We actually have an updated version of the Master List over here, and we have a page on tags here. If you have something to add to the tags one, let me know, and I'll be sure it gets on there.

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CGGGlopez wrote

Nike - my homies got caught up at Nike. They keep files on all the times you go in with pics n video. License plate gave them away, a LP agent was waiting outside with the 5-0 they got 10+ yrz cause they did it over n over. I got lucky I wasn't on the run with them. Beware.

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