[deleted] wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:25 PM (edited on March 6, 2018 at 10:25 PM)

An_Old_Big_Tree wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:35 PM

this warmed my heart

NoMoreCommunism wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:36 PM

It's hard to understand you guys, lol.

[deleted] wrote on September 4, 2017 at 3:52 AM

Defasher wrote on September 4, 2017 at 5:06 AM

Nihilist post-leftist dirtbag here.

tnstaec wrote on September 4, 2017 at 12:14 AM

The entire structure of liberal democracy is slightly less soul-crushing than a autocracy. But it's still a far cry from true freedom. The state is still the state.

Defasher wrote on September 4, 2017 at 5:09 AM

That's because you're as savvy as a bucket of week old gravy.

NoMoreCommunism wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:27 PM (edited on September 3, 2017 at 11:28 PM)

Alright, thanks for your replies.

But are you serious, how can you not at least like having freedom of speech, press and religion?

An_Old_Big_Tree wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:45 PM (edited on September 3, 2017 at 11:47 PM)

To add to what emma is saying, these 'freedoms' you speak of are freedoms endowed by a state. State mediated 'freedoms' are not of interest to us, for a range of reasons, one of them being that the state is a fundamentally oppressive force.

NoMoreCommunism wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:47 PM

But without an enforcer of rights and freedoms how is it guaranteed?

An_Old_Big_Tree wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:49 PM

Our rights are not guaranteed by the state. We are just told they are guaranteed. In practice it is nothing like that. I assume you are aware of this, and so it's really hard to keep pretending you are engaging here in good faith at all.

NoMoreCommunism wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:51 PM

I understand, and the current situation in America is not sustainable. But how in your mind will this be guaranteed?

An_Old_Big_Tree wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:56 PM

They wouldn't. Remember the part about us not liking rights?

NoMoreCommunism wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:57 PM

At all?

An_Old_Big_Tree wrote on September 4, 2017 at 12:03 AM

Alright, at this stage I'm going to say - go have a read of theanarchistlibrary.org - it's not my job to educate you.

Here's an adequate place to start: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq

NoMoreCommunism wrote on September 4, 2017 at 12:04 AM

Will do.

CommunismWins wrote on September 4, 2017 at 3:47 AM

such a useful resource of nonsense

Defasher wrote on September 4, 2017 at 5:41 AM (edited on September 4, 2017 at 8:32 AM)

A lot like your skull then

[deleted] wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:40 PM (edited on March 6, 2018 at 10:25 PM)

NoMoreCommunism wrote on September 3, 2017 at 11:43 PM (edited on September 3, 2017 at 11:43 PM)

But you're exercising your right to Free speech at this very moment...

Also I'm by no means a fan of the current American governance model it used to be much better.

[deleted] wrote on September 4, 2017 at 12:34 AM (edited on March 6, 2018 at 10:25 PM)

CommunismWins wrote on September 4, 2017 at 3:33 AM

are you russian? why do you love trump?

tnstaec wrote on September 4, 2017 at 12:25 AM

it used to be much better

Things were so much better before blacks and women could vote amirite?

Defasher wrote on September 4, 2017 at 8:33 AM (edited on September 4, 2017 at 8:40 AM)

You mean when they let you own slaves and beat women to a bloody pulp?

"Free speech" isn't "speech".

SpiritOfTito wrote on September 4, 2017 at 9:02 AM

Lol like the free speech afforded Malcolm X when he was murdered by the FBI? Or how about the democracy of pretty much all western countries which had their socialist and communist parties destroyed by subversion?

Particularly Italy where the communist party would've won in elections after world war 2 were it not for the USAs intervention? Or Chile's democratically elected Allendes government who was murdered by the usas?