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NoMoreCommunism wrote
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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote
this warmed my heart
NoMoreCommunism wrote
It's hard to understand you guys, lol.
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Defasher wrote
Nihilist post-leftist dirtbag here.
tnstaec wrote
The entire structure of liberal democracy is slightly less soul-crushing than a autocracy. But it's still a far cry from true freedom. The state is still the state.
Defasher wrote
That's because you're as savvy as a bucket of week old gravy.
NoMoreCommunism wrote (edited )
Alright, thanks for your replies.
But are you serious, how can you not at least like having freedom of speech, press and religion?
An_Old_Big_Tree wrote (edited )
To add to what emma is saying, these 'freedoms' you speak of are freedoms endowed by a state. State mediated 'freedoms' are not of interest to us, for a range of reasons, one of them being that the state is a fundamentally oppressive force.
NoMoreCommunism wrote
But without an enforcer of rights and freedoms how is it guaranteed?
An_Old_Big_Tree wrote
Our rights are not guaranteed by the state. We are just told they are guaranteed. In practice it is nothing like that. I assume you are aware of this, and so it's really hard to keep pretending you are engaging here in good faith at all.
NoMoreCommunism wrote
I understand, and the current situation in America is not sustainable. But how in your mind will this be guaranteed?
An_Old_Big_Tree wrote
They wouldn't. Remember the part about us not liking rights?
NoMoreCommunism wrote
At all?
An_Old_Big_Tree wrote
Alright, at this stage I'm going to say - go have a read of theanarchistlibrary.org - it's not my job to educate you.
Here's an adequate place to start: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq
NoMoreCommunism wrote
Will do.
CommunismWins wrote
such a useful resource of nonsense
Defasher wrote (edited )
A lot like your skull then
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NoMoreCommunism wrote (edited )
But you're exercising your right to Free speech at this very moment...
Also I'm by no means a fan of the current American governance model it used to be much better.
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CommunismWins wrote
are you russian? why do you love trump?
tnstaec wrote
it used to be much better
Things were so much better before blacks and women could vote amirite?
Defasher wrote (edited )
You mean when they let you own slaves and beat women to a bloody pulp?
"Free speech" isn't "speech".
SpiritOfTito wrote
Lol like the free speech afforded Malcolm X when he was murdered by the FBI? Or how about the democracy of pretty much all western countries which had their socialist and communist parties destroyed by subversion?
Particularly Italy where the communist party would've won in elections after world war 2 were it not for the USAs intervention? Or Chile's democratically elected Allendes government who was murdered by the usas?
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