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NoMoreCommunism wrote

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Don't you like freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free markets, civil rights, democratic societies, secular governments, and international cooperation?

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

this warmed my heart

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NoMoreCommunism wrote

It's hard to understand you guys, lol.

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tnstaec wrote

The entire structure of liberal democracy is slightly less soul-crushing than a autocracy. But it's still a far cry from true freedom. The state is still the state.

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Defasher wrote

That's because you're as savvy as a bucket of week old gravy.

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NoMoreCommunism wrote (edited )

Alright, thanks for your replies.

But are you serious, how can you not at least like having freedom of speech, press and religion?

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote (edited )

To add to what emma is saying, these 'freedoms' you speak of are freedoms endowed by a state. State mediated 'freedoms' are not of interest to us, for a range of reasons, one of them being that the state is a fundamentally oppressive force.

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NoMoreCommunism wrote

But without an enforcer of rights and freedoms how is it guaranteed?

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Our rights are not guaranteed by the state. We are just told they are guaranteed. In practice it is nothing like that. I assume you are aware of this, and so it's really hard to keep pretending you are engaging here in good faith at all.

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NoMoreCommunism wrote

I understand, and the current situation in America is not sustainable. But how in your mind will this be guaranteed?

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

They wouldn't. Remember the part about us not liking rights?

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NoMoreCommunism wrote

At all?

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An_Old_Big_Tree wrote

Alright, at this stage I'm going to say - go have a read of theanarchistlibrary.org - it's not my job to educate you.

Here's an adequate place to start: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq

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NoMoreCommunism wrote (edited )

But you're exercising your right to Free speech at this very moment...

Also I'm by no means a fan of the current American governance model it used to be much better.

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tnstaec wrote

it used to be much better

Things were so much better before blacks and women could vote amirite?

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Defasher wrote (edited )

You mean when they let you own slaves and beat women to a bloody pulp?

"Free speech" isn't "speech".

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SpiritOfTito wrote

Lol like the free speech afforded Malcolm X when he was murdered by the FBI? Or how about the democracy of pretty much all western countries which had their socialist and communist parties destroyed by subversion?

Particularly Italy where the communist party would've won in elections after world war 2 were it not for the USAs intervention? Or Chile's democratically elected Allendes government who was murdered by the usas?

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