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black_fox wrote

i don't vote, i don't care if others vote, but i will never not make fun of anarchists who tell people to vote

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confundus wrote

It's interesting that the anarchists on Reddit like to parrot a lot of the same talking points you hear from tankies defending China, Cuba, Venezuela, USSR, etc. "It's all just lies pushed by the Western news!!" Okay, we can agree, news sources have bias and definitely push false narratives but one needs to look at things critically and particularly when there are independent reports coming from several people, kind of like Emma and Alexander when they visited the USSR and found it was nothing like what the state machinery was telling those outside, one should approach with even more caution.

Plus a firebombing a politicians car will always be more effective than voting against them.

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black_fox wrote

anarchists from reddit seem to be more "red" than "black." it's one thing i found alienating about the space.

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BrowseDuringClass1917 wrote (edited )

I, for one, absolutely used r/anarchism to soften the image of MLism during my ‘rigid’ ML days. Although I was always quite open with critiquing those states because I could never be disingenous with my views to try and push a specific perspective.

But this is something that anarchists should definitely be aware of. Many MLs and ML adjacent people use anarchist webspaces and spread their views unintentionally or intentionally in a way to bring people closer to MLism.

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Dumai wrote

JC will be the first anti-imperialist to be elected in any core capitalist country.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Dumai wrote

no such thing as an anti-imperialist socdem, particularly not one leading a party with a manifesto that looks like that

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ziq OP wrote (edited )

More nukes and more cops.

I love how these fake fucking anarchists try to shame people into voting by saying they're hurting people if they don't.

The guy saying there's no racism in the party is a mod, too.

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celebratedrecluse wrote

Labour has had a tremendous opportunity to seize power in the last few years, and yet like their Democratic counterparts in the US they have squandered most of this window with incoherent first worldist politics, a limited imagination, and repeated failures to interrogate whiteness.

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

The exitstence of the Labour party is to quell radical thought. It is an opportunity for the rich to 'give up' a few of their privledges which is called 'reform' if people start to disobey. Their existence is completely unecessary now as the there is no meaningful resistance. The Tories, the true face of the rich can now rule explicitly, unchallenged. The only resistance they will get is a cute peaceful protest.

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Splinglebot wrote

The only resistance they will get is a cute peaceful protest.

I wish this were less true

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

and they would get violently dispersed by the police. Their response would be to thank the police, 'We are breaking the law, they are just doing their job'.

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nbdy wrote (edited )

I’m so frustrated with hearing people say “voting helps marginalized people” without anything to back it up. As far as I’ve seen the pigs are still shooting no matter who’s in power. The pipelines are still being built no matter who’s in power. Where I’m from any government is a colonial one. It exhausting as fuck to hear people call themselves anarchists and then in the same beath talk about state power being useful even with all their caveats.

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Splinglebot wrote

I kinda lowkey want labour to win a majority so that in 5 years I can say I told you so

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ziq OP wrote

You'd figure Greece would be enough I told you so's to last a few years.

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Splinglebot wrote

sadly most in the UK have no idea about any of that

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

Yeah. The political ones are like 'yeah, police state is ok as long as they are on our side. Vote Lab!'.

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

They already had a majority. They dominated the 00s.

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Splinglebot wrote

yea but they were openly centrist then. People seem to think it's different now that they have actual left wing leadership

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deathdirge wrote

Are you calling Reddit anarchists liberals? 😁

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KacperTheAnarchist wrote

They are. So many so callled 'anarchists' who as soon as election comes they shill for politicians and love democracy.

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