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The_Ten_Types_Joke wrote (edited )

Lubos Motl who was fired from Harvard for being such a bad person is a right wing nut who is anti-immigration, anti-Muslim, capitalist, racist, sexist, global warming denier, Trump supporter ... Get this old James Damore out of here with all his pseudo science to pass his misogyny.

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ziq wrote

Did someone use 17 accounts to upvote this to the top?

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emma wrote (edited )

BORN TO DIE

WORLD IS A FUCK

鬼神 Kill Em All 1989

I am trash man

410,757,864,530 DEAD COPS

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ziq wrote (edited )

Since this is still at the top of the site I'm thinking a [Junk Science / Climate Change Denier] tag might be called for, but the only mod is inactive.

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kazahana wrote

iq and iq comparison are science

bad science is still science and needs to be addressed the same way all other science is: a good old fashioned effort at disproving it

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zorblax wrote

B U R D E N O F P R O O F

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kazahana wrote

One way in which one would attempt to shift the burden of proof is by committing a logical fallacy known as the argument from ignorance. It occurs when either a proposition is assumed to be true because it has not yet been proved false or a proposition is assumed to be false because it has not yet been proved true.

Even Wikipedia knows why you are bad at science.

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zorblax wrote

You see the first thing? That's what most iq comparison science is. "Try to disprove my claim, liberal cucks! PROTIP: YOU CAN"T!!!!!"

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kazahana wrote

Science is not done by just telling people X is pseudoscience and thus not worth considering. It is done by evidence and evidence alone.

There is plenty of evidence by which to judge IQ. Throwing it out just because is no different from those who cling to it just because.

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kazahana wrote

iirc it's been found the areas in which men score higher on average are accounted for by the confidence gap, which basically means men are more likely to answer harder questions that women will more often just give up on

i haven't seen anything explaining or debunking the standard deviation difference though

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surreal wrote

but "Men's mean value of EQ is 30-40 points lower that women's mean value of EQ with 0% deviation"

i too like cooking with statistics, yummy

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mineraloiI wrote

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kazahana wrote (edited )

it primarily captures working memory

there are countless mostly independent aspects of cognition and most IQ tests are heavily weighted toward capturing only one or two of them, and then in the event a test does measure two it tends to immediately conflate them into one score regardless

the reason several dozen apparent "learning disabilities" exist to begin with is because different parts of the brain are being called upon to perform each of these things... and the fact that any one of them can function outside population norms and expectations should indicate that all of these things function on a spectrum

but some people just desperately want to boil all that down into a simple test like IQ which has shown extreme levels of test-retest variance and call it "g", the general intelligence factor

it is ridiculous

worse yet, a quick look at the literature shows direct measures designed to identify working memory alone actually are more useful measures of learning ability than IQ is... so why is IQ still a thing?

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mofongo wrote

Self steem

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kazahana wrote

I barely even know any very high IQ people who take the concept all that seriously to begin with. Even among people in the "too high to be measured by the test" range, I've been hard-pressed to find people who place an awful lot of stock in it.

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surreal wrote

Critiquing the critique. Thats why IQ isnt something to take so seriously, they are a tone other things that it doesn't take into consideration so it shows nothing. Also the title and the article are misleading, the reasearch is about what each gender thinks about climate change the author doesn't say anything about IQ so where do these statistics come from? from "They have been measured many times." ? i call BS.

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kazahana wrote

women are easier to convince of climate change and he is implying it is because women are stupid and therefore obviously climate change is wrong

he conveniently left out that higher IQ is also associated with higher belief in climate change and his so-called "gullibility" etc.

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mineraloiI wrote

I don't agree with him but I think the science behind it should be addressed.

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PainlessEphemera wrote

Sure Lubos Motal, what’s next, do you want to talk about the four humors or how leeching is the best way to remove blood?