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zorblax wrote

if this ever happens, priority one is hacking it so it's available for all

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BlackFlagged wrote

It takes resources to create tech grafts, there's no way to give them to 8 billion people.

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zorblax wrote

I'm not so sure, even stuff like cell phones(which is essentially a cybernetic enhancement) are available to a good 90% of the planet's population these days. Wait long enough and the tech gets a lot cheaper.

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zorblax wrote (edited )

If people are ever going to be immortal, it will be on a microchip, not in a physical body.

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zorblax wrote

Is that seriously your biggest concern? In any scalable posthuman mind-uploading scheme, the resources saved by switching from inefficient meatbodies to microchips would be massive.

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NEOalquimista wrote (edited )

I have to agree with zorblax. There are more than a few sources of energy all around us. It's a matter of how well we can harvest it (maybe combine the energy from multiple sources). With the miniaturization of technology, it feels pretty real to imagine.

"Microchip" is just a manner of speak. Getting into the SCI-FI realm, I would imagine we would exist as disembodied computer programs, attaching to any physical device we can find and using it to explore the world. A giant network of moving parts, ever expanding throughout the universe (hopefully decentralized).

Perhaps aliens wouldn't come in spaceships, but as digital data.

But that's going too far from the subject. Anyway, biological immortality seems less feasible than digital transcendence nowadays.

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NEOalquimista wrote (edited )

I understand. But we shouldn't elaborate further on this, because we're just conjecturing how energy-hungry our technology would be. It might become less "power hungry" if our devices improve how they use it. Or more, as you said.

Actually, we should move our attention to the current energy problems. I have since a child been eager for future technology and space exploration. But seeing what the world is becoming just made me a tad more sad and angry.

Now I keep thinking that it will all be used by the rich only.

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NEOalquimista wrote

I would say all these gadgets we apply to our bodies to improve our functions are pretty transhumanist, like smart glasses, watches, electronic pills that monitor body function and more. What we're talking about is the amplification of this. Projected into the future. A prediction based on what exist now, actually.

It's not like imagining time travel. Transhumanism's got a lot more examples in our current world.

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NEOalquimista wrote

Could you point out what exactly makes it inaccurate? I mean, is it worth discussing? Aren't we getting into some dark area of conjecturing about conjectures, which will lead nowhere, since we're all giving our personal opinions here?

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NEOalquimista wrote

OK, I get it. You think it's not going to happen for "x" reasons. I think it will happen because of "x" reasons. That's why I said discussing it like this won't get us anywhere.

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zorblax wrote

What do you think is going to get the resources for microchips?

robots

Where will you store these hundreds of trillions of microchips safely?

underground

Where will the electricity come from?

power plants