[deleted] wrote on September 14, 2017 at 5:29 PM (edited on November 4, 2017 at 4:39 AM)

Reply to comment by ziq_TNG in So much of the left is anti-science and it's sickening by EdgyIndividualistBuffoon

ziq_TNG wrote on September 14, 2017 at 5:34 PM (edited on September 14, 2017 at 5:34 PM)

If you can make it on your own, using locally sourced or recycled materials, and it does more good to life than harm, it's sustainable.

We're not fools, we know most modern technology created under capitalism today isn't sustainable, we're just not so quick to demonize all tech. If we abandoned unsustainable tech, people would have no choice but to develop sustainable alternatives and to reuse and repurpose obsolete tech.

[deleted] wrote on September 14, 2017 at 6:07 PM (edited on November 4, 2017 at 4:39 AM)

ziq_TNG wrote on September 14, 2017 at 6:25 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by 'high tech', we support theoretical sustainable technology that could conceivably be developed in the future, as well as current technologies that can be made sustainably (e.g. hammers, scythes, eyeglasses, anesthetic).

We're under no allusions of it being advanced technology, especially in comparison to what capitalism gives us (by completely disregarding our health and environment in favor of advancement).

What postciv does is gives regular people (that are too accustomed to a capitalist existence to completely give it up) a little tunnel in their minds they can burrow through, in order to embrace the idea of a world without (current, destructive) technology. By leaving room for theoretical sustainable tech in the future that may or may not ever exist, they're a lot more willing to listen to our ideas.

It lets us bring these ideas to a much wider audience than primitivists will ever manage with your 'no medicine, no post-stoneage tech, fuck you' dogma.