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Reply to comment by TimmyCatChores in The Problem with Scientism by Pop

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TimmyCatChores wrote

But you need to tell me how you determine the truth.

You can't just tell me I'm wrong, you need to explain how I'm supposed to do it right.

Left is a left PHILOSOPHY forum. Asking for an explanation is argumentation, and it's solidarity.

All I'm getting here is 'science doesn't know everything', which is fine, but you give no concrete explanation as what relevance that has in real life.

It seems like an excuse to say "I'll believe whatever I want".

There's no detail to the argument.

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TimmyCatChores wrote

This is too abstract. I've forgotten your point was regarding the thread.

Don't worry about my manners. That's why the blocking feature is there.

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TimmyCatChores wrote

You don't give an answer ever.

Explain yourself in more than just 'I don't like that idea'. There needs to be reasoning for your words to merit influence. It's philosophy. <shrugs>

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TimmyCatChores wrote

Lets look carefully at the discourse.

If you're not raising the level of understanding for people, and just saying "I don't like it", it's not working for rational discourse.

It's like "I don't like what you say but have no obligation to explain why".

That's simply disruption.

I love to learn. That's why I ask people to explain themselves. That's how to learn.

Here, asking someone to explain themselves is 'authoritarian'.

On my posts, I call bullshit bullshit.

If you're not here for the same purpose, I do not accept disruption.

If I need to do what I did on FB, which was ban a thousand people so I could have space, I guess I'll need to do that if I decide to put more effort into the transition.

I'm going to start with the people I consider bullshiters on this thread, so they don't bother me on other threads.

Solidarity and collective thinking go together. I'm not looking for banter from guys who just do that. I'm looking to work.

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BlackFlagged wrote (edited )

If you don't want anyone to talk to you, why don't you just make a forum, post what you want to say, and then lock the thread so no one can offer their perspective?

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TimmyCatChores wrote

Well it is a question for me, the relation between mental health and activism, which is a focus for me.

It's pretty simple to expect to not be attacked in the mental health forum for talking about legitimate psychology.

The accusations are getting intense from people who are anti-psychology.

That's not anything sensible in the real world of real work.

How can there be cohesion between anything if I can't relate activism to real science, in the absence of mumbo-jumbo anti-science?

I just at least be able to say anti-science is bullshit in the mental health forum.

I'm kind-of confused that people think that's OK.

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TimmyCatChores wrote

It's just wrong and Whack. And it seems to be 'normal' here. It's saddening and discouraging. <sigh>

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TimmyCatChores wrote

you need to quote what you're talking about, because there's no relevance to this conversation anymore.

You don't seem to have a point about the topic.

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