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WindTalk wrote (edited )

I agree the whole framing is simplistic. You are raised dependent on your parents, if you can't see there is a path of individuality that requires you to be self-aware and break free from your parents language, thinking, teaching, religion, etc.

the collective can erase individuals as history will show again and again and again

That's how I see it too. Freedom and liberty don't have a great track record with humanity when it comes to spirituality movements and ideas. History shows again and again that people claimed that their view was for the entire planet, but once travel and telecommunications became standard - we found that ideas of spirituality were much more like languages - regional. Converting between spiritual systems has often proven both violent and crushing toward dissenting individuals. The most recent large-scale progress has been to identify violence itself as an objective to eliminate from group behaviors, but it surely has not been widely adopted by populations.