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gweur wrote

Do you always assume that anyone who disagrees with you must be white? Are you sure you are as free from prejudice and judgement as you believe you are?

If someone discusses a topic in a rational manner they must be defending white supremacy? Do you always slander and straw man people? I suppose if you are incapable of debate, then you must resort to dishonesty.

If you engage in avoidance tactics, how do you every expect to reach any form of commonality? If we cannot make sense of each other, then there is no communication or understanding between us!

Yes there is some racism with the justice system, however does that negate that black males are 6 to 8 times more likely to be the victim or the perpetrator of an interracial homicide than white males, have a look at the black interracial homicides compared to Asian interracial homicides, its fairly stark reading.

Can we agree that what’s predominantly killing young black men is not the police, its young black men. If we don’t acknowledge this, if we wilfully ignore it then how can we expect to drop the interracial homicide rate? How can we hope to stop black men from becoming both the perpetrators and the victims of homicide if we willingly misrepresent the problem.

If a subset of a group commit a specific crime at a rate 6-8 times greater than another subset of the same group, would you expect both subsets to undergo incarceration at the same rate? Of course you wouldn’t, you would expect the first group to be incarcerated at a much higher rate, about 6-8 times more than the second.

I know that this is unpleasant to hear, its unpalatable to think about. Facts really don’t care about anyone’s feelings, to have any hope of changing the circumstances we have to face up to the problem warts and all.

p.s I have already read The New Jim Crow, are you aware of the critisms of this work? I would refer you to the Law Professor James Forman Jr who gives an excellent refutation of the work. Before you pull out the race card it is worth noting that James Foreman is not white, i would encourage you to read his book Locking Up Our Own: Crime and Punishment in Black America if you havent done so already, as you clearly have no clue as to the reality of the situation we find ourselves in and why we ended up here.