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dslinguist wrote

Ugh god drag. A bunch of cis dudes in caricatures of women and saying that they’re part of the queer community. Not to mention the ignorant assuming that’s what trans people look like.

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jonniedarc wrote

I think you're being really unfair and kind of homophobic here. Drag queens are foundational to the queer community, they've been participants since the beginning (there were tons of drag queens at Stonewall). You're talking about a community that is by definition gender non-conforming and typically gay. How are they not part of the community? Moreover, many drag queens and crossdressers are closeted transwomen exploring their gender identity in a way they can feel safe. I don't know why you would disrespect that.

A bunch of cis dudes in caricatures of women

I understand what you're saying but considering this is exactly the insult TERFs use against trans women generally, I think you need to realize that this whole line of argument is reductive and binarist as hell.

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dslinguist wrote

I apologise for coming across that way, I’ve just had a few bad experiences with people who crossdress/do drag who were cis-straight guys. That’s the experiences I’m coming from.

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jonniedarc wrote

That's totally fair, I've definitely known and heard of drag queens who are awful people (RuPaul comes to mind), and there is certainly misogyny worth criticizing in a lot of drag communities. But I think I'm a tad defensive of the whole concept and community because it was part of how I was able to discover the broader queer community.

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dslinguist wrote

That’s understandable. I was just venting my frustrations and past experiences, in the wrong way obviously.

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