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ziq wrote

How is being ostracized from society because of how you look not real? And why are you assuming people are 'over-indulging' because they're not thin? That's bullshit.

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plast wrote

  1. Bullying people for looks is not ideal. But encouraging poor health is intolerable

  2. If you have the money to pay for a healthy diet you're making a choice not to.

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GrimWillow wrote (edited )

Disagree.

  1. Don't bully people for their looks, it's not just "not ideal", it's not necessary. The alternative to bullying people for their looks is not "encouraging poor health".

  2. I know people personally that have conditions in their life where they have enough money to eat healthy, but due to other problems, they have excess fat. You're still assuming that they're over-indulging. That's some harmful shit right there.

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supernice wrote

but due to other problems, they have excess fat

^ This! It is a huge assumption to say all obese people are just gluttons with no self control. This is far from the truth and is just mass generalization. Truth is, you can't know unless you know the individual. Even then, some will likely not tell you if they have a health issue that is a factor in their weight because it's a private matter.

I agree that we need to help in any way we can to spread good dietary principles, IF asked, but assuming others just don't care about their health is just lazy thinking.

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BunnyBop wrote

Bulling people isn't just "not ideal", it's dangerous. How is tolerating the harassment and dehumanization of fat people for the sake of concern trolling acceptable to you? Cause I know you don't really care about my fat ass.

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plast wrote

Encouraging fat is the real danger. I'm not trying to dehumanize you. I dont care about you and I've never seen you in my life. You can be fat even, its your choice. But, when you encourage others to think obesity is okay, thats a major issue.

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BunnyBop wrote

My dude, when you talk about my body itself as a disease, you are dehumanizing me. You are reducing me down to what you see. Being fat is okay. It may or may not be healthy, but it is okay.

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plast wrote

Being fat isnt okay. This isnt a moral point. This isnt my preference. This is biology. Scientifically being fat is unhealthy. And i never said "your body" was a disease, I said your condition is.

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BunnyBop wrote (edited )

lol "This condition" is my body, you nerd. "Okay" can mean different things in different contexts. Morally, being fat is okay. Health wise, who cares? It's not your body. The fact that you are so clearly disgusted by fat people is most definitely not okay either way.

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plast wrote

Morally, being fat is okay

Promotion of destructive culture and higher healthcare costs for me. I'm not disgusted by fat people by the way. Some people are fat that I find attractive. Some people are medically obese and I cant tell. My issue is when people reify things like fatphobia and say being obese and healthy is possible.

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BunnyBop wrote

I frankly don't care about the health thing, but "reify things like fatphobia"? Dude, I've been telling you it's a thing as a fat person who experiences it and you aren't going to erase that. Do I need to give you examples?

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retiredaccount wrote

encouraging poor health

I haven't seen any encouraging of it; just encouraging self-acceptance and not insulting and ostracizing people for it.

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plast wrote

Fat is unhealthy. Saying its acceptable encourages poor health. Thats it.

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BunnyBop wrote

And why the hell do you care about other people's health so much?

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plast wrote

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BunnyBop wrote

Why are you scapegoating fat people for an inefficient system that makes you pay for it in the first place? You're problem shouldn't be with fat people, it should be with capitalism and the healthcare industry.

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edmund_the_destroyer wrote

If bullying people for being fat helped them to be thin, there would be zero fat people anywhere.

I heard "fatso" and "lardass" and "fat fucker" before I was a teenager and dealt with plenty of tears and depression because of it. And thirty years later, I'm still fat.